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Last post 05-19-2008, 7:19 AM by rockjock. 32 replies.
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  •  05-08-2008, 5:20 PM 2748707

    National ID systems is a must.

    We've been facing too much crisis this few months just like the Rice and we are trying to Identify each person if they really reside on that area. Or just trying to control the situation. But how can we control it without even authentic Identification for each person. Aside from that have you heard the chinese who was caught in the airport he doesnt even know how to speak in tagalog. Ive seen too much already in Recto chinese who is the owner of an stall but she could not speak in english or even in Filipino then her pinay assistan called by her. By the national ID i guess this will eradicate the illegal entry,legal ID for private and public requirements and if there is a government program can easily determine the real information.

    National ID system is like your Identity that you are citizen of Philippines. This serve as a control if need just like the crisis we encounter for the past few months. So they are trying to create a system to identify and control those person who really reside on that barangay. Another thing is that you can easiyl ask to anybody about there National Id if they are suspecting that you are alien specially in our case too many chinese which you dont know if they are just a Tsinoy or chinese already at least police can ask their National Id to prove that they are Filipino citizen.Just like in Taiwan they call it resident ID, in Saudi Iqama or Resident Id's for the Expatriate. In that manner we Identify who really illegal alien and can use to other purposes too in private and in public use. Drivers license is different one it is not mandatory to have license ID but in National you are force to secure one.This is long term solution rather than issuing different kind of Ids which only waste funds again.After the program of the government again it useless again. So think about the National IDs system for out own good and long term solution for Identity of true citizen Filipino.
    Is there any more harder of spending money and then when you dont need it you will get again and try to secure or gathered again the information??How do you determine an alien chinese inside the country????If you can easily acquired a NSO, which you can already get a philippine passport and easily get an Drivers Licens???????????
    The purpose of securing the ID is to identify that you are bonified citizen and that proves that you have a record from NSO, which later on each barangay will ask for your residency when you are taking a barangay clearance to issue an clearance you just present this ID to know the important information like birthday your real name. Meaning the information you gave to the barangay is your truly name and age. Which eradicate the use of forge age and name.Even your poor you are entitled to get one for the personal used in the future. To have this meaning you dont have to authenticate everytime to the NSO to prove that you have this birthday and name.But for the first time to get of course you have to authenticate it to be issued a National ID.
  •  05-08-2008, 8:40 PM 2749049 in reply to 2748707

    Re: National ID systems is a must.

    citizenwatch:
    We've been facing too much crisis this few months just like the Rice and we are trying to Identify each person if they really reside on that area. Or just trying to control the situation. But how can we control it without even authentic Identification for each person. Aside from that have you heard the chinese who was caught in the airport he doesnt even know how to speak in tagalog. Ive seen too much already in Recto chinese who is the owner of an stall but she could not speak in english or even in Filipino then her pinay assistan called by her. By the national ID i guess this will eradicate the illegal entry,legal ID for private and public requirements and if there is a government program can easily determine the real information.

    One ID System! 

    Matagal na ang panukalang ito pero sa dami ng mga komo kontra nababalam at di na naipa tupad. Mangilan ngilan lang ang nakakapansin ng kahalagahan nito. Pero gaano nga ba kahalaga itong One ID system na to?

    Kanina lang kasi ay bumili ako ng ng style pocket wallet na card holder. Ngayon ng ilagay ko ang nga card ko dito ay di pa nagkasya yung mga ID card ko na dapat ay lagi kong dala.  3 credit card, 3 ATMcard, 2 health card, 4 grocery card, 1 SM Advantage card, 3 drug card and 2 smartmoney card, bukod yung company ID card malapad kasi at driver license card. Hindi nagkasya lahat dahil 12 slot lang ang laman nito. Ngayon ang tanong ko lahat ba ng card na binanggit ko ay mababale wala o di na kakailanganin kung sakaling maging One ID sysem na tayo? Hindi na ba kukuha ng passport card, ng PRC card, Senior citizen card, NFA card.... etc... etc na nakakahilo sa daming mga cards? Kung ang lahat na yan ay mababale wala at magagamit sa lahat ng transaction ang One ID system aba hala 200% ako na pabor dyan.      


    NO MAN IS RICH ENOUGH TO BUY BACK HIS PAST.
  •  05-08-2008, 11:08 PM 2749221 in reply to 2749049

    Re: National ID systems is a must.

    Aquacorn:

    citizenwatch:
    We've been facing too much crisis this few months just like the Rice and we are trying to Identify each person if they really reside on that area. Or just trying to control the situation. But how can we control it without even authentic Identification for each person. Aside from that have you heard the chinese who was caught in the airport he doesnt even know how to speak in tagalog. Ive seen too much already in Recto chinese who is the owner of an stall but she could not speak in english or even in Filipino then her pinay assistan called by her. By the national ID i guess this will eradicate the illegal entry,legal ID for private and public requirements and if there is a government program can easily determine the real information.

    One ID System! 

    Matagal na ang panukalang ito pero sa dami ng mga komo kontra nababalam at di na naipa tupad. Mangilan ngilan lang ang nakakapansin ng kahalagahan nito. Pero gaano nga ba kahalaga itong One ID system na to?

    Kanina lang kasi ay bumili ako ng ng style pocket wallet na card holder. Ngayon ng ilagay ko ang nga card ko dito ay di pa nagkasya yung mga ID card ko na dapat ay lagi kong dala.  3 credit card, 3 ATMcard, 2 health card, 4 grocery card, 1 SM Advantage card, 3 drug card and 2 smartmoney card, bukod yung company ID card malapad kasi at driver license card. Hindi nagkasya lahat dahil 12 slot lang ang laman nito. Ngayon ang tanong ko lahat ba ng card na binanggit ko ay mababale wala o di na kakailanganin kung sakaling maging One ID sysem na tayo? Hindi na ba kukuha ng passport card, ng PRC card, Senior citizen card, NFA card.... etc... etc na nakakahilo sa daming mga cards? Kung ang lahat na yan ay mababale wala at magagamit sa lahat ng transaction ang One ID system aba hala 200% ako na pabor dyan.      

    Eksakto kabayan, one ID system is very efective, for esampol sa USA yung driver's license ay yun na rin ang personal ID. At doon naman sa mga hindi nagmamaneho yung ID nila ay kamukha ng lisensya pero hindi nga lang valid to use as a driver's license. At yun na rin ang ginagamit nila sa lahat ng transactions nila na nagrerequire nito sa lahat ng sangay ng gobyerno. One ID system is very important kung ang gusto natin ay maging organisado ang sistema ng ating society.
  •  05-08-2008, 11:11 PM 2749227 in reply to 2749221

    Re: National ID systems is a must.

    Lolo Tapoy:
    Aquacorn:

    citizenwatch:
    We've been facing too much crisis this few months just like the Rice and we are trying to Identify each person if they really reside on that area. Or just trying to control the situation. But how can we control it without even authentic Identification for each person. Aside from that have you heard the chinese who was caught in the airport he doesnt even know how to speak in tagalog. Ive seen too much already in Recto chinese who is the owner of an stall but she could not speak in english or even in Filipino then her pinay assistan called by her. By the national ID i guess this will eradicate the illegal entry,legal ID for private and public requirements and if there is a government program can easily determine the real information.

    One ID System! 

    Matagal na ang panukalang ito pero sa dami ng mga komo kontra nababalam at di na naipa tupad. Mangilan ngilan lang ang nakakapansin ng kahalagahan nito. Pero gaano nga ba kahalaga itong One ID system na to?

    Kanina lang kasi ay bumili ako ng ng style pocket wallet na card holder. Ngayon ng ilagay ko ang nga card ko dito ay di pa nagkasya yung mga ID card ko na dapat ay lagi kong dala.  3 credit card, 3 ATMcard, 2 health card, 4 grocery card, 1 SM Advantage card, 3 drug card and 2 smartmoney card, bukod yung company ID card malapad kasi at driver license card. Hindi nagkasya lahat dahil 12 slot lang ang laman nito. Ngayon ang tanong ko lahat ba ng card na binanggit ko ay mababale wala o di na kakailanganin kung sakaling maging One ID sysem na tayo? Hindi na ba kukuha ng passport card, ng PRC card, Senior citizen card, NFA card.... etc... etc na nakakahilo sa daming mga cards? Kung ang lahat na yan ay mababale wala at magagamit sa lahat ng transaction ang One ID system aba hala 200% ako na pabor dyan.      

    Eksakto kabayan, one ID system is very efective, for esampol sa USA yung driver's license ay yun na rin ang personal ID. At doon naman sa mga hindi nagmamaneho yung ID nila ay kamukha ng lisensya pero hindi nga lang valid to use as a driver's license. At yun na rin ang ginagamit nila sa lahat ng transactions nila na nagrerequire nito sa lahat ng sangay ng gobyerno. One ID system is very important kung ang gusto natin ay maging organisado ang sistema ng ating society.
    i think you are talking about the state ID...pero wala doon ang SS number...alam mo na mahirap mabikitima ng identity theft...pero hiwalay pa rin ang green card...hiwalay din ang health insurance card...since oprivate yon...hiwalay din ang medicare card...
    Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people.
  •  05-08-2008, 11:41 PM 2749274 in reply to 2749227

    Re: National ID systems is a must.

    prince:
    Lolo Tapoy:
    Aquacorn:

    citizenwatch:
    We've been facing too much crisis this few months just like the Rice and we are trying to Identify each person if they really reside on that area. Or just trying to control the situation. But how can we control it without even authentic Identification for each person. Aside from that have you heard the chinese who was caught in the airport he doesnt even know how to speak in tagalog. Ive seen too much already in Recto chinese who is the owner of an stall but she could not speak in english or even in Filipino then her pinay assistan called by her. By the national ID i guess this will eradicate the illegal entry,legal ID for private and public requirements and if there is a government program can easily determine the real information.

    One ID System! 

    Matagal na ang panukalang ito pero sa dami ng mga komo kontra nababalam at di na naipa tupad. Mangilan ngilan lang ang nakakapansin ng kahalagahan nito. Pero gaano nga ba kahalaga itong One ID system na to?

    Kanina lang kasi ay bumili ako ng ng style pocket wallet na card holder. Ngayon ng ilagay ko ang nga card ko dito ay di pa nagkasya yung mga ID card ko na dapat ay lagi kong dala.  3 credit card, 3 ATMcard, 2 health card, 4 grocery card, 1 SM Advantage card, 3 drug card and 2 smartmoney card, bukod yung company ID card malapad kasi at driver license card. Hindi nagkasya lahat dahil 12 slot lang ang laman nito. Ngayon ang tanong ko lahat ba ng card na binanggit ko ay mababale wala o di na kakailanganin kung sakaling maging One ID sysem na tayo? Hindi na ba kukuha ng passport card, ng PRC card, Senior citizen card, NFA card.... etc... etc na nakakahilo sa daming mga cards? Kung ang lahat na yan ay mababale wala at magagamit sa lahat ng transaction ang One ID system aba hala 200% ako na pabor dyan.      

    Eksakto kabayan, one ID system is very efective, for esampol sa USA yung driver's license ay yun na rin ang personal ID. At doon naman sa mga hindi nagmamaneho yung ID nila ay kamukha ng lisensya pero hindi nga lang valid to use as a driver's license. At yun na rin ang ginagamit nila sa lahat ng transactions nila na nagrerequire nito sa lahat ng sangay ng gobyerno. One ID system is very important kung ang gusto natin ay maging organisado ang sistema ng ating society.
    i think you are talking about the state ID...pero wala doon ang SS number...alam mo na mahirap mabikitima ng identity theft...pero hiwalay pa rin ang green card...hiwalay din ang health insurance card...since oprivate yon...hiwalay din ang medicare card...

    Yes I'm talking about the state ID which you always use in all your transactions, govt man or private. Very effective yan, tingnan mo na lang kung gaano ka-organized ang sistema ninyo di ba? yung ss  may connection din yan sa state ID. Sa pagkaka-alam ko hindi ka pwedeng magkaroon ng ID kung wala kang SS number. Yung greencard of course immigration issue na yan, the point is, hindi katulad dito sa Pinas na merong ID kabi-kabila. Minsan nga sa bangko, tatlong ID na ang iprinisinta mo eh ayaw ka pang paniwalaan hehehe!

  •  05-09-2008, 10:52 PM 2751062 in reply to 2749274

    Re: National ID systems is a must.

    Ok naman pala tong one ID system. Hindi ko na po problemahin ang pagdadala ng sang katerbang card sa bulsa ko araw araw. One ID transaction is great. Hindi na talaga imposible yan.

    NO MAN IS RICH ENOUGH TO BUY BACK HIS PAST.
  •  05-09-2008, 11:39 PM 2751111 in reply to 2749274

    Re: National ID systems is a must.

    Lolo Tapoy:
    prince:
    Lolo Tapoy:
    Aquacorn:

    citizenwatch:
    We've been facing too much crisis this few months just like the Rice and we are trying to Identify each person if they really reside on that area. Or just trying to control the situation. But how can we control it without even authentic Identification for each person. Aside from that have you heard the chinese who was caught in the airport he doesnt even know how to speak in tagalog. Ive seen too much already in Recto chinese who is the owner of an stall but she could not speak in english or even in Filipino then her pinay assistan called by her. By the national ID i guess this will eradicate the illegal entry,legal ID for private and public requirements and if there is a government program can easily determine the real information.

    One ID System! 

    Matagal na ang panukalang ito pero sa dami ng mga komo kontra nababalam at di na naipa tupad. Mangilan ngilan lang ang nakakapansin ng kahalagahan nito. Pero gaano nga ba kahalaga itong One ID system na to?

    Kanina lang kasi ay bumili ako ng ng style pocket wallet na card holder. Ngayon ng ilagay ko ang nga card ko dito ay di pa nagkasya yung mga ID card ko na dapat ay lagi kong dala.  3 credit card, 3 ATMcard, 2 health card, 4 grocery card, 1 SM Advantage card, 3 drug card and 2 smartmoney card, bukod yung company ID card malapad kasi at driver license card. Hindi nagkasya lahat dahil 12 slot lang ang laman nito. Ngayon ang tanong ko lahat ba ng card na binanggit ko ay mababale wala o di na kakailanganin kung sakaling maging One ID sysem na tayo? Hindi na ba kukuha ng passport card, ng PRC card, Senior citizen card, NFA card.... etc... etc na nakakahilo sa daming mga cards? Kung ang lahat na yan ay mababale wala at magagamit sa lahat ng transaction ang One ID system aba hala 200% ako na pabor dyan.      

    Eksakto kabayan, one ID system is very efective, for esampol sa USA yung driver's license ay yun na rin ang personal ID. At doon naman sa mga hindi nagmamaneho yung ID nila ay kamukha ng lisensya pero hindi nga lang valid to use as a driver's license. At yun na rin ang ginagamit nila sa lahat ng transactions nila na nagrerequire nito sa lahat ng sangay ng gobyerno. One ID system is very important kung ang gusto natin ay maging organisado ang sistema ng ating society.
    i think you are talking about the state ID...pero wala doon ang SS number...alam mo na mahirap mabikitima ng identity theft...pero hiwalay pa rin ang green card...hiwalay din ang health insurance card...since oprivate yon...hiwalay din ang medicare card...

    Yes I'm talking about the state ID which you always use in all your transactions, govt man or private. Very effective yan, tingnan mo na lang kung gaano ka-organized ang sistema ninyo di ba? yung ss  may connection din yan sa state ID. Sa pagkaka-alam ko hindi ka pwedeng magkaroon ng ID kung wala kang SS number. Yung greencard of course immigration issue na yan, the point is, hindi katulad dito sa Pinas na merong ID kabi-kabila. Minsan nga sa bangko, tatlong ID na ang iprinisinta mo eh ayaw ka pang paniwalaan hehehe!

    ewan ko sa SS at Driver's ID or State ID(dahil wala nga ang ss number sa 2 id's na ito)...pero alam ko you just need a proof of address...Ang SS ay needed para ka makapagtrabaho.o kaya sa pagbukas ng account sa bangko.
    Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people.
  •  05-10-2008, 12:44 AM 2751152 in reply to 2751111

    Re: National ID systems is a must.

    prince:
    Lolo Tapoy:
    prince:
    Lolo Tapoy:
    Aquacorn:

    citizenwatch:
    We've been facing too much crisis this few months just like the Rice and we are trying to Identify each person if they really reside on that area. Or just trying to control the situation. But how can we control it without even authentic Identification for each person. Aside from that have you heard the chinese who was caught in the airport he doesnt even know how to speak in tagalog. Ive seen too much already in Recto chinese who is the owner of an stall but she could not speak in english or even in Filipino then her pinay assistan called by her. By the national ID i guess this will eradicate the illegal entry,legal ID for private and public requirements and if there is a government program can easily determine the real information.

    One ID System! 

    Matagal na ang panukalang ito pero sa dami ng mga komo kontra nababalam at di na naipa tupad. Mangilan ngilan lang ang nakakapansin ng kahalagahan nito. Pero gaano nga ba kahalaga itong One ID system na to?

    Kanina lang kasi ay bumili ako ng ng style pocket wallet na card holder. Ngayon ng ilagay ko ang nga card ko dito ay di pa nagkasya yung mga ID card ko na dapat ay lagi kong dala.  3 credit card, 3 ATMcard, 2 health card, 4 grocery card, 1 SM Advantage card, 3 drug card and 2 smartmoney card, bukod yung company ID card malapad kasi at driver license card. Hindi nagkasya lahat dahil 12 slot lang ang laman nito. Ngayon ang tanong ko lahat ba ng card na binanggit ko ay mababale wala o di na kakailanganin kung sakaling maging One ID sysem na tayo? Hindi na ba kukuha ng passport card, ng PRC card, Senior citizen card, NFA card.... etc... etc na nakakahilo sa daming mga cards? Kung ang lahat na yan ay mababale wala at magagamit sa lahat ng transaction ang One ID system aba hala 200% ako na pabor dyan.      

    Eksakto kabayan, one ID system is very efective, for esampol sa USA yung driver's license ay yun na rin ang personal ID. At doon naman sa mga hindi nagmamaneho yung ID nila ay kamukha ng lisensya pero hindi nga lang valid to use as a driver's license. At yun na rin ang ginagamit nila sa lahat ng transactions nila na nagrerequire nito sa lahat ng sangay ng gobyerno. One ID system is very important kung ang gusto natin ay maging organisado ang sistema ng ating society.
    i think you are talking about the state ID...pero wala doon ang SS number...alam mo na mahirap mabikitima ng identity theft...pero hiwalay pa rin ang green card...hiwalay din ang health insurance card...since oprivate yon...hiwalay din ang medicare card...

    Yes I'm talking about the state ID which you always use in all your transactions, govt man or private. Very effective yan, tingnan mo na lang kung gaano ka-organized ang sistema ninyo di ba? yung ss  may connection din yan sa state ID. Sa pagkaka-alam ko hindi ka pwedeng magkaroon ng ID kung wala kang SS number. Yung greencard of course immigration issue na yan, the point is, hindi katulad dito sa Pinas na merong ID kabi-kabila. Minsan nga sa bangko, tatlong ID na ang iprinisinta mo eh ayaw ka pang paniwalaan hehehe!

    ewan ko sa SS at Driver's ID or State ID(dahil wala nga ang ss number sa 2 id's na ito)...pero alam ko you just need a proof of address...Ang SS ay needed para ka makapagtrabaho.o kaya sa pagbukas ng account sa bangko.

    Yung SS number yan ang iyong permanenteng numero sa pagbabayad ng tax mo, it doesn't serve as an ID. Hindi katulad ng state ID nandun lahat ng impormasyon tungkol sa iyo kaya nga ID di ba? Ngayong kung ikaw ay magmamaneho na rin, yung Driver's License mo na rin ang magse-serve as your State ID, hindi mo kailangan ng dalawang ID. Noong araw sabi ng anak ko ay maluwag ang America sa pag-issue ng SS at ID pero ngayon ay mahigpit na sila dahil sa lumalalang immigration problem.

  •  05-10-2008, 1:09 AM 2751165 in reply to 2751152

    Re: National ID systems is a must.

    Lolo Tapoy:
    prince:
    Lolo Tapoy:
    prince:
    Lolo Tapoy:
    Aquacorn:

    citizenwatch:
    We've been facing too much crisis this few months just like the Rice and we are trying to Identify each person if they really reside on that area. Or just trying to control the situation. But how can we control it without even authentic Identification for each person. Aside from that have you heard the chinese who was caught in the airport he doesnt even know how to speak in tagalog. Ive seen too much already in Recto chinese who is the owner of an stall but she could not speak in english or even in Filipino then her pinay assistan called by her. By the national ID i guess this will eradicate the illegal entry,legal ID for private and public requirements and if there is a government program can easily determine the real information.

    One ID System! 

    Matagal na ang panukalang ito pero sa dami ng mga komo kontra nababalam at di na naipa tupad. Mangilan ngilan lang ang nakakapansin ng kahalagahan nito. Pero gaano nga ba kahalaga itong One ID system na to?

    Kanina lang kasi ay bumili ako ng ng style pocket wallet na card holder. Ngayon ng ilagay ko ang nga card ko dito ay di pa nagkasya yung mga ID card ko na dapat ay lagi kong dala.  3 credit card, 3 ATMcard, 2 health card, 4 grocery card, 1 SM Advantage card, 3 drug card and 2 smartmoney card, bukod yung company ID card malapad kasi at driver license card. Hindi nagkasya lahat dahil 12 slot lang ang laman nito. Ngayon ang tanong ko lahat ba ng card na binanggit ko ay mababale wala o di na kakailanganin kung sakaling maging One ID sysem na tayo? Hindi na ba kukuha ng passport card, ng PRC card, Senior citizen card, NFA card.... etc... etc na nakakahilo sa daming mga cards? Kung ang lahat na yan ay mababale wala at magagamit sa lahat ng transaction ang One ID system aba hala 200% ako na pabor dyan.      

    Eksakto kabayan, one ID system is very efective, for esampol sa USA yung driver's license ay yun na rin ang personal ID. At doon naman sa mga hindi nagmamaneho yung ID nila ay kamukha ng lisensya pero hindi nga lang valid to use as a driver's license. At yun na rin ang ginagamit nila sa lahat ng transactions nila na nagrerequire nito sa lahat ng sangay ng gobyerno. One ID system is very important kung ang gusto natin ay maging organisado ang sistema ng ating society.
    i think you are talking about the state ID...pero wala doon ang SS number...alam mo na mahirap mabikitima ng identity theft...pero hiwalay pa rin ang green card...hiwalay din ang health insurance card...since oprivate yon...hiwalay din ang medicare card...

    Yes I'm talking about the state ID which you always use in all your transactions, govt man or private. Very effective yan, tingnan mo na lang kung gaano ka-organized ang sistema ninyo di ba? yung ss  may connection din yan sa state ID. Sa pagkaka-alam ko hindi ka pwedeng magkaroon ng ID kung wala kang SS number. Yung greencard of course immigration issue na yan, the point is, hindi katulad dito sa Pinas na merong ID kabi-kabila. Minsan nga sa bangko, tatlong ID na ang iprinisinta mo eh ayaw ka pang paniwalaan hehehe!

    ewan ko sa SS at Driver's ID or State ID(dahil wala nga ang ss number sa 2 id's na ito)...pero alam ko you just need a proof of address...Ang SS ay needed para ka makapagtrabaho.o kaya sa pagbukas ng account sa bangko.

    Yung SS number yan ang iyong permanenteng numero sa pagbabayad ng tax mo, it doesn't serve as an ID. Hindi katulad ng state ID nandun lahat ng impormasyon tungkol sa iyo kaya nga ID di ba? Ngayong kung ikaw ay magmamaneho na rin, yung Driver's License mo na rin ang magse-serve as your State ID, hindi mo kailangan ng dalawang ID. Noong araw sabi ng anak ko ay maluwag ang America sa pag-issue ng SS at ID pero ngayon ay mahigpit na sila dahil sa lumalalang immigration problem.

    well, i have both the state and driver's ID...dahil may mga time na may situation na humihingi ng more than 1 ID. sa work SS card is a form of ID lalo na as proof to work. of course sa pagmaneho you nned the driver's license but you cannot use the state ID in exchange. Sa SS card naman ilalagay nila not valid for work kung ID lang purpose mo when you apply a new account sa bangko...
    Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people.
  •  05-10-2008, 1:19 AM 2751172 in reply to 2751165

    Re: National ID systems is a must.

    prince:
    Lolo Tapoy:
    prince:
    Lolo Tapoy:
    prince:
    Lolo Tapoy:
    Aquacorn:

    citizenwatch:
    We've been facing too much crisis this few months just like the Rice and we are trying to Identify each person if they really reside on that area. Or just trying to control the situation. But how can we control it without even authentic Identification for each person. Aside from that have you heard the chinese who was caught in the airport he doesnt even know how to speak in tagalog. Ive seen too much already in Recto chinese who is the owner of an stall but she could not speak in english or even in Filipino then her pinay assistan called by her. By the national ID i guess this will eradicate the illegal entry,legal ID for private and public requirements and if there is a government program can easily determine the real information.

    One ID System! 

    Matagal na ang panukalang ito pero sa dami ng mga komo kontra nababalam at di na naipa tupad. Mangilan ngilan lang ang nakakapansin ng kahalagahan nito. Pero gaano nga ba kahalaga itong One ID system na to?

    Kanina lang kasi ay bumili ako ng ng style pocket wallet na card holder. Ngayon ng ilagay ko ang nga card ko dito ay di pa nagkasya yung mga ID card ko na dapat ay lagi kong dala.  3 credit card, 3 ATMcard, 2 health card, 4 grocery card, 1 SM Advantage card, 3 drug card and 2 smartmoney card, bukod yung company ID card malapad kasi at driver license card. Hindi nagkasya lahat dahil 12 slot lang ang laman nito. Ngayon ang tanong ko lahat ba ng card na binanggit ko ay mababale wala o di na kakailanganin kung sakaling maging One ID sysem na tayo? Hindi na ba kukuha ng passport card, ng PRC card, Senior citizen card, NFA card.... etc... etc na nakakahilo sa daming mga cards? Kung ang lahat na yan ay mababale wala at magagamit sa lahat ng transaction ang One ID system aba hala 200% ako na pabor dyan.      

    Eksakto kabayan, one ID system is very efective, for esampol sa USA yung driver's license ay yun na rin ang personal ID. At doon naman sa mga hindi nagmamaneho yung ID nila ay kamukha ng lisensya pero hindi nga lang valid to use as a driver's license. At yun na rin ang ginagamit nila sa lahat ng transactions nila na nagrerequire nito sa lahat ng sangay ng gobyerno. One ID system is very important kung ang gusto natin ay maging organisado ang sistema ng ating society.
    i think you are talking about the state ID...pero wala doon ang SS number...alam mo na mahirap mabikitima ng identity theft...pero hiwalay pa rin ang green card...hiwalay din ang health insurance card...since oprivate yon...hiwalay din ang medicare card...

    Yes I'm talking about the state ID which you always use in all your transactions, govt man or private. Very effective yan, tingnan mo na lang kung gaano ka-organized ang sistema ninyo di ba? yung ss  may connection din yan sa state ID. Sa pagkaka-alam ko hindi ka pwedeng magkaroon ng ID kung wala kang SS number. Yung greencard of course immigration issue na yan, the point is, hindi katulad dito sa Pinas na merong ID kabi-kabila. Minsan nga sa bangko, tatlong ID na ang iprinisinta mo eh ayaw ka pang paniwalaan hehehe!

    ewan ko sa SS at Driver's ID or State ID(dahil wala nga ang ss number sa 2 id's na ito)...pero alam ko you just need a proof of address...Ang SS ay needed para ka makapagtrabaho.o kaya sa pagbukas ng account sa bangko.

    Yung SS number yan ang iyong permanenteng numero sa pagbabayad ng tax mo, it doesn't serve as an ID. Hindi katulad ng state ID nandun lahat ng impormasyon tungkol sa iyo kaya nga ID di ba? Ngayong kung ikaw ay magmamaneho na rin, yung Driver's License mo na rin ang magse-serve as your State ID, hindi mo kailangan ng dalawang ID. Noong araw sabi ng anak ko ay maluwag ang America sa pag-issue ng SS at ID pero ngayon ay mahigpit na sila dahil sa lumalalang immigration problem.

    well, i have both the state and driver's ID...dahil may mga time na may situation na humihingi ng more than 1 ID. sa work SS card is a form of ID lalo na as proof to work. of course sa pagmaneho you nned the driver's license but you cannot use the state ID in exchange. Sa SS card naman ilalagay nila not valid for work kung ID lang purpose mo when you apply a new account sa bangko...

    Nakakapagtaka dahil yung state at driver's ID ay pareho lang ng laman at itsura. Since you said in some situation ay hinihingi more than one ID eh nakakapagtaka dahil kapag meron ka nang driver's license ay pwede mo nang gupitin at itapon yung ordinaryong state ID mo.

  •  05-10-2008, 2:02 AM 2751211 in reply to 2751172

    Re: National ID systems is a must.

    Lolo Tapoy:
    prince:
    Lolo Tapoy:
    prince:
    Lolo Tapoy:
    prince:
    Lolo Tapoy:
    Aquacorn:

    citizenwatch:
    We've been facing too much crisis this few months just like the Rice and we are trying to Identify each person if they really reside on that area. Or just trying to control the situation. But how can we control it without even authentic Identification for each person. Aside from that have you heard the chinese who was caught in the airport he doesnt even know how to speak in tagalog. Ive seen too much already in Recto chinese who is the owner of an stall but she could not speak in english or even in Filipino then her pinay assistan called by her. By the national ID i guess this will eradicate the illegal entry,legal ID for private and public requirements and if there is a government program can easily determine the real information.

    One ID System! 

    Matagal na ang panukalang ito pero sa dami ng mga komo kontra nababalam at di na naipa tupad. Mangilan ngilan lang ang nakakapansin ng kahalagahan nito. Pero gaano nga ba kahalaga itong One ID system na to?

    Kanina lang kasi ay bumili ako ng ng style pocket wallet na card holder. Ngayon ng ilagay ko ang nga card ko dito ay di pa nagkasya yung mga ID card ko na dapat ay lagi kong dala.  3 credit card, 3 ATMcard, 2 health card, 4 grocery card, 1 SM Advantage card, 3 drug card and 2 smartmoney card, bukod yung company ID card malapad kasi at driver license card. Hindi nagkasya lahat dahil 12 slot lang ang laman nito. Ngayon ang tanong ko lahat ba ng card na binanggit ko ay mababale wala o di na kakailanganin kung sakaling maging One ID sysem na tayo? Hindi na ba kukuha ng passport card, ng PRC card, Senior citizen card, NFA card.... etc... etc na nakakahilo sa daming mga cards? Kung ang lahat na yan ay mababale wala at magagamit sa lahat ng transaction ang One ID system aba hala 200% ako na pabor dyan.      

    Eksakto kabayan, one ID system is very efective, for esampol sa USA yung driver's license ay yun na rin ang personal ID. At doon naman sa mga hindi nagmamaneho yung ID nila ay kamukha ng lisensya pero hindi nga lang valid to use as a driver's license. At yun na rin ang ginagamit nila sa lahat ng transactions nila na nagrerequire nito sa lahat ng sangay ng gobyerno. One ID system is very important kung ang gusto natin ay maging organisado ang sistema ng ating society.
    i think you are talking about the state ID...pero wala doon ang SS number...alam mo na mahirap mabikitima ng identity theft...pero hiwalay pa rin ang green card...hiwalay din ang health insurance card...since oprivate yon...hiwalay din ang medicare card...

    Yes I'm talking about the state ID which you always use in all your transactions, govt man or private. Very effective yan, tingnan mo na lang kung gaano ka-organized ang sistema ninyo di ba? yung ss  may connection din yan sa state ID. Sa pagkaka-alam ko hindi ka pwedeng magkaroon ng ID kung wala kang SS number. Yung greencard of course immigration issue na yan, the point is, hindi katulad dito sa Pinas na merong ID kabi-kabila. Minsan nga sa bangko, tatlong ID na ang iprinisinta mo eh ayaw ka pang paniwalaan hehehe!

    ewan ko sa SS at Driver's ID or State ID(dahil wala nga ang ss number sa 2 id's na ito)...pero alam ko you just need a proof of address...Ang SS ay needed para ka makapagtrabaho.o kaya sa pagbukas ng account sa bangko.

    Yung SS number yan ang iyong permanenteng numero sa pagbabayad ng tax mo, it doesn't serve as an ID. Hindi katulad ng state ID nandun lahat ng impormasyon tungkol sa iyo kaya nga ID di ba? Ngayong kung ikaw ay magmamaneho na rin, yung Driver's License mo na rin ang magse-serve as your State ID, hindi mo kailangan ng dalawang ID. Noong araw sabi ng anak ko ay maluwag ang America sa pag-issue ng SS at ID pero ngayon ay mahigpit na sila dahil sa lumalalang immigration problem.

    well, i have both the state and driver's ID...dahil may mga time na may situation na humihingi ng more than 1 ID. sa work SS card is a form of ID lalo na as proof to work. of course sa pagmaneho you nned the driver's license but you cannot use the state ID in exchange. Sa SS card naman ilalagay nila not valid for work kung ID lang purpose mo when you apply a new account sa bangko...

    Nakakapagtaka dahil yung state at driver's ID ay pareho lang ng laman at itsura. Since you said in some situation ay hinihingi more than one ID eh nakakapagtaka dahil kapag meron ka nang driver's license ay pwede mo nang gupitin at itapon yung ordinaryong state ID mo.

    you are right, they look alike pero magkaiba parin...look at the number magkaiba...plus malinaw na nakalagay ay ID card vs driver's license...let say magbubukas ka ng banko or ng bagong address sa post office....they ask for more than 1 ID. It is better to have both....
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  •  05-10-2008, 12:51 PM 2751654 in reply to 2751211

    Re: National ID systems is a must.

    Ito ang isang sample na maaring manyari sa mga credit card kung mawawala natin.

    http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=806250

    Palagay ko naman kung one ID system na tayo hindi mang yayari yugn ginawa ng football player na si Jamar Hornsby ng Florida USA. 


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  •  05-10-2008, 8:13 PM 2752391 in reply to 2751172

    Re: National ID systems is a must.

    National ID system is like your Identity that you are citizen of Philippines. This serve as a control if need just like the crisis we encounter for the past few months. So they are trying to create a system to identify and control those person who really reside on that barangay. Another thing is that you can easiyl ask to anybody about there National Id if they are suspecting that you are alien specially in our case too many chinese which you dont know if they are just a Tsinoy or chinese already at least police can ask their National Id to prove that they are Filipino citizen.Just like in Taiwan they call it resident ID, in Saudi Iqama or Resident Id's for the Expatriate. In that manner we Identify who really illegal alien and can use to other purposes too in private and in public use. Drivers license is different one it is not mandatory to have license ID but in National you are force to secure one.This is long term solution rather than issuing different kind of Ids which only waste funds again.After the program of the government again it useless again. So think about the National IDs system for out own good and long term solution for Identity of true citizen Filipino.
  •  05-11-2008, 2:11 AM 2753043 in reply to 2751211

    Re: National ID systems is a must.

    prince:
    Lolo Tapoy:
    prince:
    Lolo Tapoy:
    prince:
    Lolo Tapoy:
    prince:
    Lolo Tapoy:
    Aquacorn:

    citizenwatch:
    We've been facing too much crisis this few months just like the Rice and we are trying to Identify each person if they really reside on that area. Or just trying to control the situation. But how can we control it without even authentic Identification for each person. Aside from that have you heard the chinese who was caught in the airport he doesnt even know how to speak in tagalog. Ive seen too much already in Recto chinese who is the owner of an stall but she could not speak in english or even in Filipino then her pinay assistan called by her. By the national ID i guess this will eradicate the illegal entry,legal ID for private and public requirements and if there is a government program can easily determine the real information.

    One ID System! 

    Matagal na ang panukalang ito pero sa dami ng mga komo kontra nababalam at di na naipa tupad. Mangilan ngilan lang ang nakakapansin ng kahalagahan nito. Pero gaano nga ba kahalaga itong One ID system na to?

    Kanina lang kasi ay bumili ako ng ng style pocket wallet na card holder. Ngayon ng ilagay ko ang nga card ko dito ay di pa nagkasya yung mga ID card ko na dapat ay lagi kong dala.  3 credit card, 3 ATMcard, 2 health card, 4 grocery card, 1 SM Advantage card, 3 drug card and 2 smartmoney card, bukod yung company ID card malapad kasi at driver license card. Hindi nagkasya lahat dahil 12 slot lang ang laman nito. Ngayon ang tanong ko lahat ba ng card na binanggit ko ay mababale wala o di na kakailanganin kung sakaling maging One ID sysem na tayo? Hindi na ba kukuha ng passport card, ng PRC card, Senior citizen card, NFA card.... etc... etc na nakakahilo sa daming mga cards? Kung ang lahat na yan ay mababale wala at magagamit sa lahat ng transaction ang One ID system aba hala 200% ako na pabor dyan.      

    Eksakto kabayan, one ID system is very efective, for esampol sa USA yung driver's license ay yun na rin ang personal ID. At doon naman sa mga hindi nagmamaneho yung ID nila ay kamukha ng lisensya pero hindi nga lang valid to use as a driver's license. At yun na rin ang ginagamit nila sa lahat ng transactions nila na nagrerequire nito sa lahat ng sangay ng gobyerno. One ID system is very important kung ang gusto natin ay maging organisado ang sistema ng ating society.
    i think you are talking about the state ID...pero wala doon ang SS number...alam mo na mahirap mabikitima ng identity theft...pero hiwalay pa rin ang green card...hiwalay din ang health insurance card...since oprivate yon...hiwalay din ang medicare card...

    Yes I'm talking about the state ID which you always use in all your transactions, govt man or private. Very effective yan, tingnan mo na lang kung gaano ka-organized ang sistema ninyo di ba? yung ss  may connection din yan sa state ID. Sa pagkaka-alam ko hindi ka pwedeng magkaroon ng ID kung wala kang SS number. Yung greencard of course immigration issue na yan, the point is, hindi katulad dito sa Pinas na merong ID kabi-kabila. Minsan nga sa bangko, tatlong ID na ang iprinisinta mo eh ayaw ka pang paniwalaan hehehe!

    ewan ko sa SS at Driver's ID or State ID(dahil wala nga ang ss number sa 2 id's na ito)...pero alam ko you just need a proof of address...Ang SS ay needed para ka makapagtrabaho.o kaya sa pagbukas ng account sa bangko.

    Yung SS number yan ang iyong permanenteng numero sa pagbabayad ng tax mo, it doesn't serve as an ID. Hindi katulad ng state ID nandun lahat ng impormasyon tungkol sa iyo kaya nga ID di ba? Ngayong kung ikaw ay magmamaneho na rin, yung Driver's License mo na rin ang magse-serve as your State ID, hindi mo kailangan ng dalawang ID. Noong araw sabi ng anak ko ay maluwag ang America sa pag-issue ng SS at ID pero ngayon ay mahigpit na sila dahil sa lumalalang immigration problem.

    well, i have both the state and driver's ID...dahil may mga time na may situation na humihingi ng more than 1 ID. sa work SS card is a form of ID lalo na as proof to work. of course sa pagmaneho you nned the driver's license but you cannot use the state ID in exchange. Sa SS card naman ilalagay nila not valid for work kung ID lang purpose mo when you apply a new account sa bangko...

    Nakakapagtaka dahil yung state at driver's ID ay pareho lang ng laman at itsura. Since you said in some situation ay hinihingi more than one ID eh nakakapagtaka dahil kapag meron ka nang driver's license ay pwede mo nang gupitin at itapon yung ordinaryong state ID mo.

    you are right, they look alike pero magkaiba parin...look at the number magkaiba...plus malinaw na nakalagay ay ID card vs driver's license...let say magbubukas ka ng banko or ng bagong address sa post office....they ask for more than 1 ID. It is better to have both....
    Well I asked my son, kapag magoopen ka ng account sa banko ang kailangan mo lang ay isang ID either state or driver's license at SS number, yun lang. Siguro in your case probably dahil mahigpit na sila ngayon sa security nila.
  •  05-11-2008, 10:59 PM 2754066 in reply to 2753043

    Re: National ID systems is a must.

    Check the original message for this topic for further information on ID systems....
  •  05-11-2008, 11:35 PM 2754186 in reply to 2748707

    Re: National ID systems is a must.

    citizenwatch:

    We've been facing too much crisis this few months just like the Rice and we are trying to Identify each person if they really reside on that area. Or just trying to control the situation. But how can we control it without even authentic Identification for each person. Aside from that have you heard the chinese who was caught in the airport he doesnt even know how to speak in tagalog. Ive seen too much already in Recto chinese who is the owner of an stall but she could not speak in english or even in Filipino then her pinay assistan called by her. By the national ID i guess this will eradicate the illegal entry,legal ID for private and public requirements and if there is a government program can easily determine the real information.

    National ID system is like your Identity that you are citizen of Philippines. This serve as a control if need just like the crisis we encounter for the past few months. So they are trying to create a system to identify and control those person who really reside on that barangay. Another thing is that you can easiyl ask to anybody about there National Id if they are suspecting that you are alien specially in our case too many chinese which you dont know if they are just a Tsinoy or chinese already at least police can ask their National Id to prove that they are Filipino citizen.Just like in Taiwan they call it resident ID, in Saudi Iqama or Resident Id's for the Expatriate. In that manner we Identify who really illegal alien and can use to other purposes too in private and in public use. Drivers license is different one it is not mandatory to have license ID but in National you are force to secure one.This is long term solution rather than issuing different kind of Ids which only waste funds again.After the program of the government again it useless again. So think about the National IDs system for out own good and long term solution for Identity of true citizen Filipino.

    One ID system is actually good, but we cannot put everything into it like for example the "citizenzhip" of the person. In the US they have one ID system which serves only for the purpose of identification. You only need  two to get around the country if you are a citizen, that is the State ID or Driver's license and SS number for your tax payer's number and if you are not a citizen yet there's the Greencard which is a proof of your permanent residency.

    That's the kind of system that we need in our country to achieve order in all transactions govt. or private. All informations will be kept in one database werein all govt agencies and private firms can gain access for the porpose of confirmation.

    The only thing is that it is hard to achieve the one ID system in this country because a lot of our citizens are living in the squatter's area which we cannot really consider as a permanent address.