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Will it be in the interest of consumers if Meralco is controlled and managed by gov't?

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  •  05-02-2008, 2:54 PM 2739426

    Will it be in the interest of consumers if Meralco is controlled and managed by gov't?

    Will it be in the interest of consumers if Meralco is controlled and managed by gov't?

    • Yes (52.6%)
    • No (47.4%)
    • Total Votes: 19
  •  05-02-2008, 3:51 PM 2739552 in reply to 2739426

    Re: Should the daily minimum wage be increased by P125 even if it may lead to higher inflation?

    The minimum wage of those in the private sector, that includes independent contractors, should at least be increased by 125. If that would be granted then it is a big relied to all those employed in private companies. Even employers are convinced that an increase is necessary. They also want to increase the purchasing capacity of the workers. I just do not know why a minimum wage increase will lead to higher inflation when a wage increase is very much necessary to address inflation.
  •  05-02-2008, 4:29 PM 2739618 in reply to 2739552

    Re: Should the daily minimum wage be increased by P125 even if it may lead to higher inflation?

    nameless:
    The minimum wage of those in the private sector, that includes independent contractors, should at least be increased by 125. If that would be granted then it is a big relied to all those employed in private companies. Even employers are convinced that an increase is necessary. They also want to increase the purchasing capacity of the workers. I just do not know why a minimum wage increase will lead to higher inflation when a wage increase is very much necessary to address inflation.

    Well, because that's the vicious cycle in a wage increase which is supposed to address inflation. Because with a mandated wage increase, this forces manufacturers to increase their prices in meeting the increase in costs, and this triggers inflation where prices have gone up, so the capacity of your salary is back to square one.

  •  05-02-2008, 11:24 PM 2740249 in reply to 2739618

    Re: Should the daily minimum wage be increased by P125 even if it may lead to higher inflation?

    pian:

    nameless:
    The minimum wage of those in the private sector, that includes independent contractors, should at least be increased by 125. If that would be granted then it is a big relied to all those employed in private companies. Even employers are convinced that an increase is necessary. They also want to increase the purchasing capacity of the workers. I just do not know why a minimum wage increase will lead to higher inflation when a wage increase is very much necessary to address inflation.

    Well, because that's the vicious cycle in a wage increase which is supposed to address inflation. Because with a mandated wage increase, this forces manufacturers to increase their prices in meeting the increase in costs, and this triggers inflation where prices have gone up, so the capacity of your salary is back to square one.

    If the increase is based on the CPI (Consumer Price Index) then it should not be inflationary.


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  •  05-04-2008, 10:59 PM 2741911 in reply to 2739426

    Re: Should the daily minimum wage be increased by P125 even if it may lead to higher inflation?

    Yes, in the sense that there will be no excuse specially to those foreign private entity that are temporarily stablish insde the country.Make the hike to all regions not only to particular regions.Aside from that remove the REGIONAL WAGE but in General.Why to make it fair to every region the wage.

    Roughly Computation of a Typical Income of a (Typical employee) 

    Basic Salary from National Wage Board (350 Basic Salry for Non-Agri)

    Basic                 350  

     x                       24 days   = P 8,400

     

    Deduction

    Tax < 10,000    =    5% of Monthly Income

                              5% x 8400  = P 420

    Fare  = P 100 /day

     100 x 24 days = P 2,400

    Food = P 100/day(50 lunch and 50 dinner)

     100 X 24 days = P 2,400 

    sss = 200/Month

          =P 200

    Rent 2500/Month

    Electric (500) / Month

    Water (250) including drinking water / Month

    =========================

     

     Per Month Computation

    Basic          =   8,400

    Deduction    =   8,250

     ++++++++++++++++

    Net Pay    = P 150

     

     Its up to you to know this fact.......National Wage Board are contented on their salary but what about other think others and dont just think yourselves....

     

     Solution :

    1. It promotes those small regions to stick on their province instead of going to cities by cities which give more pay.It solve the contentment of person to stay on his/her province and other regions will not be over populated like manila. Second it will lessen squatters and easily controlled by law enforcer and traffic will be lessen.

    2. National Wage Board needs to implement the real salary not because corporate dictates that it will be a big retrenchment of employee. Try to implement whats right. Imagine if the salary wont be enough it will be also the same. Employee will just stay home rather go to work cause they knew, jobs is already hard but in return salary is not quite good. You just teach the Filipino to be lazy then so problem to the country no productivity the country gets.. Worse to worse case they just end up to be criminals.Society now having much more problems.....

  •  05-05-2008, 3:28 AM 2742225 in reply to 2741911

    Re: Should the daily minimum wage be increased by P125 even if it may lead to higher inflation?

    SA GOVT. HINDI MAHIRAP, ALL THEY NEED IS THE APPROVAL OF BUDGET AT OK NA...THE BIG PROBLEM IS, THE PRIVATE'S SECTORS ABILITY TO PAY...

    IF THEY WILL INCREASE THE SALARY, CHANCES ARE LOTS OF COMPANIES MIGHT START REDUCING THE MANPOWER ....DECREASE IN THE NO. OF WORKING HOURS OR DAYS SO NET EFFECT WOULD BE THE SAME...

    LIKE SOLOMON'S PROBLEM NA KAILANGAN MASATISFY BOTH SIDES.: EMPLOYER AND EMPLOYEE...

    NAPAKAHIRAP TALAGA NG BUHAY SA PINAS LALONG NAGIGING MAHIRAP DAHIL MISMONG BASIC COMMODITIES AY SKYROCKETING ANG MGA PRICES...

    SIGURO FIRST THING THAT THE GOVT. MUST DO, IS INCREASE FOOD PRODUCTION....SECOND,  CONTROL THE PRICING IN THE MARKET....ESP. THE FOOD...

    PAG TAAS NG FUEL, TAAS RIN LAHAT...PERO PAG BABA NG PRESYO, WALA NAMANG BUMABABA...STEADY NA ANG PRICES...DAPAT MAG KAROON NG REGULATION NA THEY WILL ALSO ADJUST THEIR PRICES PAG BUMABA NAMAN ANG PRICE NG FUEL..

    **

    ALSO, THE GOVT. SHOULD HAVE A MEETING WITH THE PRIVATE SECTORS/EMPLOYERS AND ASK THEM TO SUBMIT FINANCIAL REPORTS AND HOW MUCH INCREASE CAN THEY GIVE...PROBABLY, IN CASH OR IN KIND... 

     FOR SURE, NOT ALL COMPANIES ARE EARNING THESE DAYS..BOTH SIDES NEED TO SURVIVE ...

  •  05-05-2008, 3:03 PM 2742786 in reply to 2742225

    Re: Should the daily minimum wage be increased by P125 even if it may lead to higher inflation?

    Indeed, all are great solution for our problems..But we have big problem will those Senates and Congressman are willing to make changes or just satisfied on their salary and dont even bother to have diffrence for the better of the country. I guess President needs the willingness to make changes and not only Ngingas kugon continue it anyway she has the power to change. Dont just go to pary meetings look whats the problem behind the Malacanang.....I understand that she need to make it up from all those previous president who mess it all but make a difference as President but dont make a diffrence on strategy to be corrupt too. Have pithy to our fellow Filipino too much suffering.....Let your conscience decide whats good. One greatest fulfillment that wealth could not pay is the way you live in this world and proud that when you are still the President you make a better difference which you change the life of others......

     

     I hope there president have the mentality to make a change for the better of Filipinos and not only for herself.....

     

     

  •  05-07-2008, 11:44 AM 2746085 in reply to 2742786

    Re: Should the daily minimum wage be increased by P125 even if it may lead to higher inflation?

    citizenwatch:

    Indeed, all are great solution for our problems..But we have big problem will those Senates and Congressman are willing to make changes or just satisfied on their salary and dont even bother to have diffrence for the better of the country. I guess President needs the willingness to make changes and not only Ngingas kugon continue it anyway she has the power to change. Dont just go to pary meetings look whats the problem behind the Malacanang.....I understand that she need to make it up from all those previous president who mess it all but make a difference as President but dont make a diffrence on strategy to be corrupt too. Have pithy to our fellow Filipino too much suffering.....Let your conscience decide whats good. One greatest fulfillment that wealth could not pay is the way you live in this world and proud that when you are still the President you make a better difference which you change the life of others......

     

     I hope there president have the mentality to make a change for the better of Filipinos and not only for herself.....

     

     

    IF SENATORS AND CONGRESSMEN ARE RECEIVING HUGE AMOUNT OF "PORK BARRELS" JUST IMAGINE HOW MUCH IS THE PRESIDENT'S ALLOTMENT?  BILLIONS?

    WHERE DO YOU THINK  THE "BROWN BAGS" WITH HALF A MILLION PESO CAME FROM? 

    OBVIOUSLY, NOT FROM HER POCKET... 

     

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  •  05-08-2008, 11:00 PM 2749211 in reply to 2739426

    Re: Should the daily minimum wage be increased by P125 even if it may lead to higher inflation?

    Yes without doubt the wages should be increased, there are far too many people living in the Philippines that have wages so low that they are incapable of providing the basic necesseties of life ! The Philipines has great mineral reserves that could quite easily put it on par with other more affluent nations such as Singapore & Malaysia. However as long as corruption goes unchecked then change will never come ! The corrupt will continue to bleed the country dry & the poor will continue to struggle on in poverty & misery. What will it take for the people of this beautiful country to say enough is enough and stop accepting bribes for their votes at election time and start voting people into office, based on their policies & not the size of their hand outs !!!


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  •  05-10-2008, 2:11 PM 2751777 in reply to 2739426

    Re: Will it be in the interest of consumers if Meralco is controlled and managed by gov't?

    My answer is no...but it should also be out of the Lopez's hands because there is certainly conflict of interest as they are both in power generation and distribution.  The buyer is also the seller.  Mamili sila which business they want to maintain.
  •  05-10-2008, 2:38 PM 2751828 in reply to 2751777

    Re: Will it be in the interest of consumers if Meralco is controlled and managed by gov't?

    yes...kasi sa ngayon wala naman magagawa ang mga consumer kung ano man ang gawin ng meralco gaya ng pagkuha ng supply sa mga IPP company na pagmamaya ari mismo ng meralco dahil isa sila pribadong kumpanya..kumabaga kung ayaw mo mag bayad ng serbisyo nila ay magtiis ka..pero kung ang gobyerno ang mag papalakad nito ay responsibilidad nila ang interest ng publiko..basta mabantayan lang ng maayos at maging transparent ay mas makakatulong ito para sa lahat...magkakaroon ngayon ng kumpetisyon sa mga supplier na siguradong bababa ang generation charge dahil mapipili ng gobyerno kung ano at saan sila kukuha ng murang supply..
    "knowledge is best with virtue"
  •  05-10-2008, 2:42 PM 2751833 in reply to 2751777

    Re: Will it be in the interest of consumers if Meralco is controlled and managed by gov't?

    yes... wala naman magagawa ang mga consumers kung ano man ang desisyon ng meralco gaya ng pagbili sa mga supplier na pagmamay ari rin nila...ngunit kung ang gobyerno ang mag papalakad dito ay magiging para sa interest ng publiko ang kapakanan nila at magagawa nilang mamili ng mga supplier na magbibigay ng sapat at mas murang kuryente dahil narin sa magiging kumpetisyon ng mga ito..basta maging transparent lang at mabantayan ng maayos...
    "knowledge is best with virtue"
  •  05-10-2008, 3:13 PM 2751874 in reply to 2739426

    Re: Will it be in the interest of consumers if Meralco is controlled and managed by gov't?

    Government owned corporations have never added any amount to the national treasuries  in the countries where they have been incorporated. European countries have tried it and failed, America tried it and failed. Private enterprise, properly franchised and regulated is the only answer to solving the energy crises here in the RP. Governmental interference in private business only drive up inflation because of the graft and corruption of so many of our elected officials. Read John Mangun's byline posted on this web site for an incite into what governmental ownership of  service oriented business will accomplish.

    James W. Hibbitts

    Vigan City, I.S. 

  •  05-10-2008, 9:35 PM 2752527 in reply to 2739426

    Re: Will it be in the interest of consumers if Meralco is controlled and managed by gov't?

    I hate to be so technical, but the survey question is so vague.  The question should have been phrased like this: "Will it be in the best interest...".  Without the word "best", the logical answer would be a "Yes", because, hello, it is in every consumer's interest whatever is going on with Meralco, Napocor, and all the players of the power sector.  Duh!  Next time, please be more careful. 

    Assuming that the question is about the best interests of consumers, then my answer is, again, Yes.  Governments around the world have never been known to manage profit-oriented businessess well, that is why it is a good idea to totally remove government control (and ownership) of businessess not only Napocor and Meralco, but everywhere.  It is enough that we have sufficient laws to protect us from whatever shenanigans the private business owners think of, together with strict, no-nonsense enforcement of these laws by the government authorities.  If these two mechanisms are in place, then consumers need not worry about mismanagement and corruption issues that seem to hound government officials wherever they dip their hands into.

  •  7 hours, 33 minutes ago 2754335 in reply to 2739426

    Re: Will it be in the interest of consumers if Meralco is controlled and managed by gov't?

    I voted YES in favor of the Government.....bcoz, the government is at least looking for the interest of the common pinoys, while MERALCO looks on the interest of profit making.  Kumbaga, the government ay MEJO SWAPANG lang while MERALCO is SUPER SWAPANG - parang BUWAAYA!!!.

  •  7 hours, 26 minutes ago 2754344 in reply to 2754335

    Re: Will it be in the interest of consumers if Meralco is controlled and managed by gov't?

    kuwaitsalam:

    I voted YES in favor of the Government.....bcoz, the government is at least looking for the interest of the common pinoys, while MERALCO looks on the interest of profit making.  Kumbaga, the government ay MEJO SWAPANG lang while MERALCO is SUPER SWAPANG - parang BUWAAYA!!!.

    well, kung walang corruption ok lang dahil mas higit pa iyon sa swuapang dahil pagnanakaw na yan...
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