RP corruption toll: P30 B a year

Saturday, April 5, 2008

The World Bank (WB) estimates that the Philippine government loses about P30 billion a year to corruption.

“By one estimate, an average of 20 percent to 30 percent of the value of every contract is lost to corruption or inefficiency – about P30 billion a year,” a draft report of the World Bank presented at the recent Philippine Development Forum (PDF) 2008 revealed.

The report also said the Philippine government’s stability has dropped substantially in the last decade, from 11.0 in 1998 to 9.5 in 2004 then later to 5.0 in 2007.

Governance indicators were measured by the International Country Risk Guide (ICRG).

The report said that despite the presence of a strong civil society, an open media and highly capable individuals in government, Philippine governance continues to be eroded and is lower than the average for middle income East Asian economies.

Among the Philippines’ neighbors, Vietnam had the highest rating in terms of government stability with 10.5 in 2007, followed by Malaysia  (9.0), Indonesia (7.5) and Thailand and South Korea (both at 6.5).

The World Bank draft report defined governance as the manner in which the state exercises its authority over institutions which provide public goods and services, an important determinant of growth and poverty reduction.

The Corruption Perception Index (CPI) of Transparency International also indicated that corruption in thePhilippines has “worsened significantly more than (in) other countries.”

The CPI fell from 3.3 in 1998 to 2.6 in 2004 then later to 2.5 in 2007.

The report said that the Philippines is perhaps the only country, with the exception of Indonesia, whose CPI has not improved over the last ten years.

In terms of CPI, Malaysia and South Korea had a rating of 5.1 in 2007, Thailand had 3.3, Vietnam, 2.6 and Indonesia, 2.3.

Bureaucratic Quality for the Philippines, meantime, remained at 3.0 from 1998 to 2007, the same asIndonesia and Malaysia, while South Korea and Thailand had 2.0.

The report said that corruption is perhaps the most visibly recognizable characteristic of weak governance.

But the report also stressed that the control of corruption requires a multi-faceted approach, including stronger checks and balances, audit trails and more “corruption-resistant administrative procedures, systems and institutions.”

Another important factor in fighting corruption is for the government to make its key decisions transparent, especially with regard the budget.

The report also gave credence to efforts undertaken by the administration to curb corruption, among them the improved budget formulation process as well as the coordination of oversight agencies.

The report also said that other factors that could likewise help strengthen anti-corruption measures are the existence of an independent Ombudsman, a Presidential Anti-Graft Commission and a series of rules and regulations that aim to increase the transparency and accountability of civil servants.

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MAYBE MORE, IMAGINE 200 M PESO FOR NERI FOR ZTE ALONE... 

Just wanna emphasize this:

  The report said that corruption is perhaps the most visibly recognizable characteristic of weak governance.

But the report also stressed that the control of corruption requires a multi-faceted approach, including stronger checks and balances, audit trails and more “corruption-resistant administrative procedures, systems and institutions.”

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Corruption and politics go hand in hand in the Philippines. You cannot have one without the other. It matters not who is in power. It is impossible to survive politically without being corrupt yourself. That's the way it works there. Possibly it is the culture that is to blame but there is no easy way to re-educate a people not to tolerate and encourage corruption, vote-buying, nepotism. By the way, nobody gives a rat's as$ if RP is ranked first or last in this or that. If we were ranked first in worldwide corruption tormorrow, do you know what the collective response would be? A shrug. It's a political system masquerading as a "democracy" but is really something else altogether.

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Success is not final. Failure is not fatal. It's the courage to continue that counts.

a shrug? who's shrugging?...protests are everywhere...and i'm sure most filipinos would like gma and her mob to get hit by lightning a thousand times to stop these greedy monsters from any more destruction...from 10 and 9.5 to just 5...now, we can tell who really is telling the truth...those hungry people in the streets couldn't say it much better!

caroonj:

a shrug? who's shrugging?...protests are everywhere...and i'm sure most filipinos would like gma and her mob to get hit by lightning a thousand times to stop these greedy monsters from any more destruction...from 10 and 9.5 to just 5...now, we can tell who really is telling the truth...those hungry people in the streets couldn't say it much better!

Rallies? What sort of BS is that? The people should have risen up in violent revolt a long time ago and and broken the stranglehold of the 134 ruling elite families on the Philippine economy.

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Success is not final. Failure is not fatal. It's the courage to continue that counts.

palahubug99:

caroonj:

a shrug? who's shrugging?...protests are everywhere...and i'm sure most filipinos would like gma and her mob to get hit by lightning a thousand times to stop these greedy monsters from any more destruction...from 10 and 9.5 to just 5...now, we can tell who really is telling the truth...those hungry people in the streets couldn't say it much better!

Rallies? What sort of BS is that? The people should have risen up in violent revolt a long time ago and and broken the stranglehold of the 134 ruling elite families on the Philippine economy.

I don't think they know about those elite families kabayan, hehehe! They thought everything will be fine if they can kick some leaders out of their seats, hehehe!

Lolo Tapoy:

palahubug99:

caroonj:

a shrug? who's shrugging?...protests are everywhere...and i'm sure most filipinos would like gma and her mob to get hit by lightning a thousand times to stop these greedy monsters from any more destruction...from 10 and 9.5 to just 5...now, we can tell who really is telling the truth...those hungry people in the streets couldn't say it much better!

Rallies? What sort of BS is that? The people should have risen up in violent revolt a long time ago and and broken the stranglehold of the 134 ruling elite families on the Philippine economy.

I don't think they know about those elite families kabayan, hehehe! They thought everything will be fine if they can kick some leaders out of their seats, hehehe!

If that is the logic, then why kick Estrada out? 

If that is the logic, then why even listen to an Evil Midget who is getting plenty of seks? Knowing full well that in the end it is going to be the 134 ruling families who will dictate the outcome?

So then, by your post, you are saying that you are in favor of a violent revolution as Palahubug states. 

 

remit_king:

Lolo Tapoy:

palahubug99:

caroonj:

a shrug? who's shrugging?...protests are everywhere...and i'm sure most filipinos would like gma and her mob to get hit by lightning a thousand times to stop these greedy monsters from any more destruction...from 10 and 9.5 to just 5...now, we can tell who really is telling the truth...those hungry people in the streets couldn't say it much better!

Rallies? What sort of BS is that? The people should have risen up in violent revolt a long time ago and and broken the stranglehold of the 134 ruling elite families on the Philippine economy.

I don't think they know about those elite families kabayan, hehehe! They thought everything will be fine if they can kick some leaders out of their seats, hehehe!

If that is the logic, then why kick Estrada out? 

If that is the logic, then why even listen to an Evil Midget who is getting plenty of seks? Knowing full well that in the end it is going to be the 134 ruling families who will dictate the outcome?

So then, by your post, you are saying that you are in favor of a violent revolution as Palahubug states. 

 

Who kicked Estrada out? Not me! don't blame me, hehehe!

The problem kabayan is that you think it is all about Gloria, hehehe! It is only in the Philippines or maybe in some countries that the president must yield to these ruling families otherwise she or he will be demonized and be kicked out of the palace. And to add to that problem, this 134 ruling families are not in harmony with each other so to speak. hehehe!

That is why if  the people doesn't believe in violence, then it is important for the people to educate themselves so that they will have the ability to support their needs and not be fallen victims over and over to the same kind of problem.

Kung ayaw natin ng madugong rebolusyon then the best way is to change ourselves positively and influence the whole community and bring the whole country to progress. Instead of destroying everything that we have already started. Let's think constructively, kung paulit-ulit lang tayo, walang mangyayari sa atin.

Lolo Tapoy:

remit_king:

Lolo Tapoy:

palahubug99:

caroonj:

a shrug? who's shrugging?...protests are everywhere...and i'm sure most filipinos would like gma and her mob to get hit by lightning a thousand times to stop these greedy monsters from any more destruction...from 10 and 9.5 to just 5...now, we can tell who really is telling the truth...those hungry people in the streets couldn't say it much better!

Rallies? What sort of BS is that? The people should have risen up in violent revolt a long time ago and and broken the stranglehold of the 134 ruling elite families on the Philippine economy.

I don't think they know about those elite families kabayan, hehehe! They thought everything will be fine if they can kick some leaders out of their seats, hehehe!

If that is the logic, then why kick Estrada out? 

If that is the logic, then why even listen to an Evil Midget who is getting plenty of seks? Knowing full well that in the end it is going to be the 134 ruling families who will dictate the outcome?

So then, by your post, you are saying that you are in favor of a violent revolution as Palahubug states. 

 

Who kicked Estrada out? Not me! don't blame me, hehehe!

The problem kabayan is that you think it is all about Gloria, hehehe! It is only in the Philippines or maybe in some countries that the president must yield to these ruling families otherwise she or he will be demonized and be kicked out of the palace. And to add to that problem, this 134 ruling families are not in harmony with each other so to speak. hehehe!

That is why if  the people doesn't believe in violence, then it is important for the people to educate themselves so that they will have the ability to support their needs and not be fallen victims over and over to the same kind of problem.

Kung ayaw natin ng madugong rebolusyon then the best way is to change ourselves positively and influence the whole community and bring the whole country to progress. Instead of destroying everything that we have already started. Let's think constructively, kung paulit-ulit lang tayo, walang mangyayari sa atin.

The problem with you Tapoy is that you think that I think it's all about Gloria when in fact I don't think like that.

This is about rules Tapoy, this is bigger than a dozen Evil midgets or a mansion full of dwarves. 

She has broken the rules, she trashed the Constitution, she derails corruption investigations and she hides the truth.

 

 

 

 

 

remit_king:

Lolo Tapoy:

remit_king:

Lolo Tapoy:

palahubug99:

caroonj:

a shrug? who's shrugging?...protests are everywhere...and i'm sure most filipinos would like gma and her mob to get hit by lightning a thousand times to stop these greedy monsters from any more destruction...from 10 and 9.5 to just 5...now, we can tell who really is telling the truth...those hungry people in the streets couldn't say it much better!

Rallies? What sort of BS is that? The people should have risen up in violent revolt a long time ago and and broken the stranglehold of the 134 ruling elite families on the Philippine economy.

I don't think they know about those elite families kabayan, hehehe! They thought everything will be fine if they can kick some leaders out of their seats, hehehe!

If that is the logic, then why kick Estrada out? 

If that is the logic, then why even listen to an Evil Midget who is getting plenty of seks? Knowing full well that in the end it is going to be the 134 ruling families who will dictate the outcome?

So then, by your post, you are saying that you are in favor of a violent revolution as Palahubug states. 

 

Who kicked Estrada out? Not me! don't blame me, hehehe!

The problem kabayan is that you think it is all about Gloria, hehehe! It is only in the Philippines or maybe in some countries that the president must yield to these ruling families otherwise she or he will be demonized and be kicked out of the palace. And to add to that problem, this 134 ruling families are not in harmony with each other so to speak. hehehe!

That is why if  the people doesn't believe in violence, then it is important for the people to educate themselves so that they will have the ability to support their needs and not be fallen victims over and over to the same kind of problem.

Kung ayaw natin ng madugong rebolusyon then the best way is to change ourselves positively and influence the whole community and bring the whole country to progress. Instead of destroying everything that we have already started. Let's think constructively, kung paulit-ulit lang tayo, walang mangyayari sa atin.

The problem with you Tapoy is that you think that I think it's all about Gloria when in fact I don't think like that.

This is about rules Tapoy, this is bigger than a dozen Evil midgets or a mansion full of dwarves. 

She has broken the rules, she trashed the Constitution, she derails corruption investigations and she hides the truth.

 

 

 

 

 

You don't think like that? Sorry kabayan, I find it hard to believe you saying that you don't think like that, tingnan mo sabi mo dito:

This is about rules Tapoy, this is bigger than a dozen Evil midgets or a mansion full of dwarves. 

 This is a dozen Gloria and a mansion full of Gloria so to speak. hehehe.

She has broken the rules, she trashed the Constitution, she derails corruption investigations and she hides the truth.

 Again the word "SHE" stands for Gloria and you used the word four times. Ni hindi mo nga nabanggit yung 134 ruling families eh, tapos sasabihin mo you don't think like that. Pambihirang patis, that's obsession kabayan. hehehe!

Lolo Tapoy:

remit_king:

Lolo Tapoy:

remit_king:

Lolo Tapoy:

palahubug99:

caroonj:

a shrug? who's shrugging?...protests are everywhere...and i'm sure most filipinos would like gma and her mob to get hit by lightning a thousand times to stop these greedy monsters from any more destruction...from 10 and 9.5 to just 5...now, we can tell who really is telling the truth...those hungry people in the streets couldn't say it much better!

Rallies? What sort of BS is that? The people should have risen up in violent revolt a long time ago and and broken the stranglehold of the 134 ruling elite families on the Philippine economy.

I don't think they know about those elite families kabayan, hehehe! They thought everything will be fine if they can kick some leaders out of their seats, hehehe!

If that is the logic, then why kick Estrada out? 

If that is the logic, then why even listen to an Evil Midget who is getting plenty of seks? Knowing full well that in the end it is going to be the 134 ruling families who will dictate the outcome?

So then, by your post, you are saying that you are in favor of a violent revolution as Palahubug states. 

 

Who kicked Estrada out? Not me! don't blame me, hehehe!

The problem kabayan is that you think it is all about Gloria, hehehe! It is only in the Philippines or maybe in some countries that the president must yield to these ruling families otherwise she or he will be demonized and be kicked out of the palace. And to add to that problem, this 134 ruling families are not in harmony with each other so to speak. hehehe!

That is why if  the people doesn't believe in violence, then it is important for the people to educate themselves so that they will have the ability to support their needs and not be fallen victims over and over to the same kind of problem.

Kung ayaw natin ng madugong rebolusyon then the best way is to change ourselves positively and influence the whole community and bring the whole country to progress. Instead of destroying everything that we have already started. Let's think constructively, kung paulit-ulit lang tayo, walang mangyayari sa atin.

The problem with you Tapoy is that you think that I think it's all about Gloria when in fact I don't think like that.

This is about rules Tapoy, this is bigger than a dozen Evil midgets or a mansion full of dwarves. 

She has broken the rules, she trashed the Constitution, she derails corruption investigations and she hides the truth.

 

 

 

 

 

You don't think like that? Sorry kabayan, I find it hard to believe you saying that you don't think like that, tingnan mo sabi mo dito:

This is about rules Tapoy, this is bigger than a dozen Evil midgets or a mansion full of dwarves. 

 This is a dozen Gloria and a mansion full of Gloria so to speak. hehehe.

She has broken the rules, she trashed the Constitution, she derails corruption investigations and she hides the truth.

 Again the word "SHE" stands for Gloria and you used the word four times. Ni hindi mo nga nabanggit yung 134 ruling families eh, tapos sasabihin mo you don't think like that. Pambihirang patis, that's obsession kabayan. hehehe!

Rules Tapoy, rules!

O, eto ang sabi mo: "Kung ayaw natin ng madugong rebolusyon then the best way is to change ourselves positively and influence the whole community and bring the whole country to progress. Instead of destroying everything that we have already started. Let's think constructively, kung paulit-ulit lang tayo, walang mangyayari sa atin. "

How can Filipinos think constructively when the head of the State is breaking the rules, trashing the Constitution, derailing corruption investigations and hiding the truth?

 

Like I said before, it doesn't matter who is in power. The next president will be just as corrupt as this one. The next president will likewise depend on Lucio Tan, Henry Sy and Jaime Zobel de Ayala for his or her political survival. Why? They are the kingmakers. They decide who sits in Malakanyang. As soon as they decide GMA is a liability then she will be gone but not before then. You may think what we have is a "democracy". I can assure you it is not.

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Success is not final. Failure is not fatal. It's the courage to continue that counts.

remit_king:

Lolo Tapoy:

remit_king:

Lolo Tapoy:

remit_king:

Lolo Tapoy:

palahubug99:

caroonj:

a shrug? who's shrugging?...protests are everywhere...and i'm sure most filipinos would like gma and her mob to get hit by lightning a thousand times to stop these greedy monsters from any more destruction...from 10 and 9.5 to just 5...now, we can tell who really is telling the truth...those hungry people in the streets couldn't say it much better!

Rallies? What sort of BS is that? The people should have risen up in violent revolt a long time ago and and broken the stranglehold of the 134 ruling elite families on the Philippine economy.

I don't think they know about those elite families kabayan, hehehe! They thought everything will be fine if they can kick some leaders out of their seats, hehehe!

If that is the logic, then why kick Estrada out? 

If that is the logic, then why even listen to an Evil Midget who is getting plenty of seks? Knowing full well that in the end it is going to be the 134 ruling families who will dictate the outcome?

So then, by your post, you are saying that you are in favor of a violent revolution as Palahubug states. 

 

Who kicked Estrada out? Not me! don't blame me, hehehe!

The problem kabayan is that you think it is all about Gloria, hehehe! It is only in the Philippines or maybe in some countries that the president must yield to these ruling families otherwise she or he will be demonized and be kicked out of the palace. And to add to that problem, this 134 ruling families are not in harmony with each other so to speak. hehehe!

That is why if  the people doesn't believe in violence, then it is important for the people to educate themselves so that they will have the ability to support their needs and not be fallen victims over and over to the same kind of problem.

Kung ayaw natin ng madugong rebolusyon then the best way is to change ourselves positively and influence the whole community and bring the whole country to progress. Instead of destroying everything that we have already started. Let's think constructively, kung paulit-ulit lang tayo, walang mangyayari sa atin.

The problem with you Tapoy is that you think that I think it's all about Gloria when in fact I don't think like that.

This is about rules Tapoy, this is bigger than a dozen Evil midgets or a mansion full of dwarves. 

She has broken the rules, she trashed the Constitution, she derails corruption investigations and she hides the truth.

 

 

 

 

 

You don't think like that? Sorry kabayan, I find it hard to believe you saying that you don't think like that, tingnan mo sabi mo dito:

This is about rules Tapoy, this is bigger than a dozen Evil midgets or a mansion full of dwarves. 

 This is a dozen Gloria and a mansion full of Gloria so to speak. hehehe.

She has broken the rules, she trashed the Constitution, she derails corruption investigations and she hides the truth.

 Again the word "SHE" stands for Gloria and you used the word four times. Ni hindi mo nga nabanggit yung 134 ruling families eh, tapos sasabihin mo you don't think like that. Pambihirang patis, that's obsession kabayan. hehehe!

Rules Tapoy, rules!

O, eto ang sabi mo: "Kung ayaw natin ng madugong rebolusyon then the best way is to change ourselves positively and influence the whole community and bring the whole country to progress. Instead of destroying everything that we have already started. Let's think constructively, kung paulit-ulit lang tayo, walang mangyayari sa atin. "

How can Filipinos think constructively when the head of the State is breaking the rules, trashing the Constitution, derailing corruption investigations and hiding the truth?

 

Oh my goodness kabayan, si Gloria pa rin ang tinutukoy mo eh, hehehe!

Well anyway, constructive thinking. Hindi mo yata naiintindihan. Heto, are you willing to bypass the system just because the head of state is doing so? That's not constructive kabayan. Is it okay to pre-condition the minds of the people just because you believe in something that is not a fact yet? Is that constructive? I don't think so! Tulad ng pinost ni Colette sa thread niya na yung Zero Remittance ng OFW's dahil galit sila kay Gloria. Tell me, is that constructive? And so on and so on kabayan. I just hope that you get what I mean, otherwise we are wasting our time here.

Lolo Tapoy:

remit_king:

Lolo Tapoy:

remit_king:

Lolo Tapoy:

remit_king:

Lolo Tapoy:

palahubug99:

caroonj:

a shrug? who's shrugging?...protests are everywhere...and i'm sure most filipinos would like gma and her mob to get hit by lightning a thousand times to stop these greedy monsters from any more destruction...from 10 and 9.5 to just 5...now, we can tell who really is telling the truth...those hungry people in the streets couldn't say it much better!

Rallies? What sort of BS is that? The people should have risen up in violent revolt a long time ago and and broken the stranglehold of the 134 ruling elite families on the Philippine economy.

I don't think they know about those elite families kabayan, hehehe! They thought everything will be fine if they can kick some leaders out of their seats, hehehe!

If that is the logic, then why kick Estrada out? 

If that is the logic, then why even listen to an Evil Midget who is getting plenty of seks? Knowing full well that in the end it is going to be the 134 ruling families who will dictate the outcome?

So then, by your post, you are saying that you are in favor of a violent revolution as Palahubug states. 

 

Who kicked Estrada out? Not me! don't blame me, hehehe!

The problem kabayan is that you think it is all about Gloria, hehehe! It is only in the Philippines or maybe in some countries that the president must yield to these ruling families otherwise she or he will be demonized and be kicked out of the palace. And to add to that problem, this 134 ruling families are not in harmony with each other so to speak. hehehe!

That is why if  the people doesn't believe in violence, then it is important for the people to educate themselves so that they will have the ability to support their needs and not be fallen victims over and over to the same kind of problem.

Kung ayaw natin ng madugong rebolusyon then the best way is to change ourselves positively and influence the whole community and bring the whole country to progress. Instead of destroying everything that we have already started. Let's think constructively, kung paulit-ulit lang tayo, walang mangyayari sa atin.

The problem with you Tapoy is that you think that I think it's all about Gloria when in fact I don't think like that.

This is about rules Tapoy, this is bigger than a dozen Evil midgets or a mansion full of dwarves. 

She has broken the rules, she trashed the Constitution, she derails corruption investigations and she hides the truth.

 

 

 

 

 

You don't think like that? Sorry kabayan, I find it hard to believe you saying that you don't think like that, tingnan mo sabi mo dito:

This is about rules Tapoy, this is bigger than a dozen Evil midgets or a mansion full of dwarves. 

 This is a dozen Gloria and a mansion full of Gloria so to speak. hehehe.

She has broken the rules, she trashed the Constitution, she derails corruption investigations and she hides the truth.

 Again the word "SHE" stands for Gloria and you used the word four times. Ni hindi mo nga nabanggit yung 134 ruling families eh, tapos sasabihin mo you don't think like that. Pambihirang patis, that's obsession kabayan. hehehe!

Rules Tapoy, rules!

O, eto ang sabi mo: "Kung ayaw natin ng madugong rebolusyon then the best way is to change ourselves positively and influence the whole community and bring the whole country to progress. Instead of destroying everything that we have already started. Let's think constructively, kung paulit-ulit lang tayo, walang mangyayari sa atin. "

How can Filipinos think constructively when the head of the State is breaking the rules, trashing the Constitution, derailing corruption investigations and hiding the truth?

 

Oh my goodness kabayan, si Gloria pa rin ang tinutukoy mo eh, hehehe!

Well anyway, constructive thinking. Hindi mo yata naiintindihan. Heto, are you willing to bypass the system just because the head of state is doing so? That's not constructive kabayan. Is it okay to pre-condition the minds of the people just because you believe in something that is not a fact yet? Is that constructive? I don't think so! Tulad ng pinost ni Colette sa thread niya na yung Zero Remittance ng OFW's dahil galit sila kay Gloria. Tell me, is that constructive? And so on and so on kabayan. I just hope that you get what I mean, otherwise we are wasting our time here.

Zero remittance is a form of protest.  Protests are a formal declaration of disapproval or objection - it seeks to address a final goal. So in that sense, it is constructive.

 

Lolo Tapoy:

Oh my goodness kabayan, si Gloria pa rin ang tinutukoy mo eh, hehehe!

Well anyway, constructive thinking. Hindi mo yata naiintindihan. Heto, are you willing to bypass the system just because the head of state is doing so? That's not constructive kabayan. Is it okay to pre-condition the minds of the people just because you believe in something that is not a fact yet? Is that constructive? I don't think so! Tulad ng pinost ni Colette sa thread niya na yung Zero Remittance ng OFW's dahil galit sila kay Gloria. Tell me, is that constructive? And so on and so on kabayan. I just hope that you get what I mean, otherwise we are wasting our time here.

Oh my gosh Tapoy! LOL!

Has your 'evil sweetheart' broken the law? If yes, then siya ang tinutukoy ko!

 

Lolo Tapoy:

remit_king:

Lolo Tapoy:

remit_king:

Lolo Tapoy:

remit_king:

Lolo Tapoy:

palahubug99:

caroonj:

a shrug? who's shrugging?...protests are everywhere...and i'm sure most filipinos would like gma and her mob to get hit by lightning a thousand times to stop these greedy monsters from any more destruction...from 10 and 9.5 to just 5...now, we can tell who really is telling the truth...those hungry people in the streets couldn't say it much better!

Rallies? What sort of BS is that? The people should have risen up in violent revolt a long time ago and and broken the stranglehold of the 134 ruling elite families on the Philippine economy.

I don't think they know about those elite families kabayan, hehehe! They thought everything will be fine if they can kick some leaders out of their seats, hehehe!

If that is the logic, then why kick Estrada out? 

If that is the logic, then why even listen to an Evil Midget who is getting plenty of seks? Knowing full well that in the end it is going to be the 134 ruling families who will dictate the outcome?

So then, by your post, you are saying that you are in favor of a violent revolution as Palahubug states. 

 

Who kicked Estrada out? Not me! don't blame me, hehehe!

The problem kabayan is that you think it is all about Gloria, hehehe! It is only in the Philippines or maybe in some countries that the president must yield to these ruling families otherwise she or he will be demonized and be kicked out of the palace. And to add to that problem, this 134 ruling families are not in harmony with each other so to speak. hehehe!

That is why if  the people doesn't believe in violence, then it is important for the people to educate themselves so that they will have the ability to support their needs and not be fallen victims over and over to the same kind of problem.

Kung ayaw natin ng madugong rebolusyon then the best way is to change ourselves positively and influence the whole community and bring the whole country to progress. Instead of destroying everything that we have already started. Let's think constructively, kung paulit-ulit lang tayo, walang mangyayari sa atin.

The problem with you Tapoy is that you think that I think it's all about Gloria when in fact I don't think like that.

This is about rules Tapoy, this is bigger than a dozen Evil midgets or a mansion full of dwarves. 

She has broken the rules, she trashed the Constitution, she derails corruption investigations and she hides the truth.

 

 

 

 

 

You don't think like that? Sorry kabayan, I find it hard to believe you saying that you don't think like that, tingnan mo sabi mo dito:

This is about rules Tapoy, this is bigger than a dozen Evil midgets or a mansion full of dwarves. 

 This is a dozen Gloria and a mansion full of Gloria so to speak. hehehe.

She has broken the rules, she trashed the Constitution, she derails corruption investigations and she hides the truth.

 Again the word "SHE" stands for Gloria and you used the word four times. Ni hindi mo nga nabanggit yung 134 ruling families eh, tapos sasabihin mo you don't think like that. Pambihirang patis, that's obsession kabayan. hehehe!

Rules Tapoy, rules!

O, eto ang sabi mo: "Kung ayaw natin ng madugong rebolusyon then the best way is to change ourselves positively and influence the whole community and bring the whole country to progress. Instead of destroying everything that we have already started. Let's think constructively, kung paulit-ulit lang tayo, walang mangyayari sa atin. "

How can Filipinos think constructively when the head of the State is breaking the rules, trashing the Constitution, derailing corruption investigations and hiding the truth?

 

Oh my goodness kabayan, si Gloria pa rin ang tinutukoy mo eh, hehehe!

Well anyway, constructive thinking. Hindi mo yata naiintindihan. Heto, are you willing to bypass the system just because the head of state is doing so? That's not constructive kabayan. Is it okay to pre-condition the minds of the people just because you believe in something that is not a fact yet? Is that constructive? I don't think so! Tulad ng pinost ni Colette sa thread niya na yung Zero Remittance ng OFW's dahil galit sila kay Gloria. Tell me, is that constructive? And so on and so on kabayan. I just hope that you get what I mean, otherwise we are wasting our time here.

GRANDPOP, NAG PAPATAWA KA BA OR NAGKAKALIMUTIN NA?

ANG MGA OPERATORS AT DRIVERS NG MGA PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, PAANO NAG POPROTESTA?  ANG MGA MANGGAGAWA NG ISANG COMPANY NA HINDI NABIBIGYAN NG TAMANG BENEPISYO/PASAHOD/ETC.   ANO ANG GINAGAWA TO SHOW THEIR  PROTEST?  

I REMEMBER BEFORE WHEN THE DRIVERS OF A PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION HERE IN SOUTHERN CA. WHO'S OWNED BY MTA WENT ON STRIKE FOR SEVERAL MONTHS...PARALYZE ANG TRANSPO...

THE WORKERS OF GROCERY STORES  LEAVE THEIR JOBS AND STAYED OUTSIDE FOR SEVERAL MONTHS  TO SHOW THEIR PROTEST... 

SO WHAT'S WRONG IF OFW'S WOULD WANT TO PROTEST TOO?   DON'T THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT?  

KAILANGAN BA MAGING CONSTRUCTIVE ANG PROTESTA?

PAKI EXPLAIN NGA, SIR?