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RE; ZTE SCANDAL

Last post 03-19-2008, 8:49 PM by elgoog. 6 replies.
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  •  03-02-2008, 1:47 AM 2672317

    RE; ZTE SCANDAL

    BAKIT MADRE/PARI/INUBUS ORAS SAFEGUARDING LOZADA/MAS KAILANGAN SILA SERVE CALAMITIES/RED CROSS/MAGHINTAY TAYO  SEE BOTH SIDES OF THIS ISSUE/ NOT TO PRE JUDGE SUCH A DELICATE MATTER/IF LOZADA WANTS TO BE A HERO HE SHD BE READY TO DIE FOR TRUTH/ DI PUEDE LAHAT NA LANG PRESIDENTE/ PAAALISIN B4 HIS/HER TERM IS UP/ LALO DI MAG MOVE UP PILIPINAS
  •  03-02-2008, 2:04 PM 2672632 in reply to 2672317

    Re: RE; ZTE SCANDAL

    cora caluag:
    BAKIT MADRE/PARI/INUBUS ORAS SAFEGUARDING LOZADA/MAS KAILANGAN SILA SERVE CALAMITIES/RED CROSS/MAGHINTAY TAYO  SEE BOTH SIDES OF THIS ISSUE/ NOT TO PRE JUDGE SUCH A DELICATE MATTER/IF LOZADA WANTS TO BE A HERO HE SHD BE READY TO DIE FOR TRUTH/ DI PUEDE LAHAT NA LANG PRESIDENTE/ PAAALISIN B4 HIS/HER TERM IS UP/ LALO DI MAG MOVE UP PILIPINAS
    aba magandang suggestion yan kalimutan muna ang pagpigil sa corruption at unahin ang baha na galing sa corruption from illegal logging at walang healthcare at walang matinong infrastructure na dapat ginagawa ng gov't....oo nga ano...nasaan nga pala ang relief fund ng gma gov't? teka si gaite maraming pera humingi ka ng pambili ng jacket bibigyan ka ng 500,000 pesos....
    Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people.
  •  03-03-2008, 11:16 AM 2673460 in reply to 2672317

    Re: RE; ZTE SCANDAL

    Lozada will not die for our country, Lozada is nothing but a greedy Chinese businessman who is destroying our beloved country!!! Lozada is the most corrupt liar!!!

     

    Lozada has cunningly duped the foolish IBP lawyers who want to grab power for themselves, he has duped the Makati Business club who want to replace Arroyo with their puppet Noli, he has duped half witted students of UST, PUP and other schools who are too laze to study their lessons and think that ousting the President is the answer to all their problems!!!!

     

    It’s a good thing that there are still solid institutions who have seen through Lozada’s self serving myopic motives. The solid AFP, El Shaddai, Iglesia, CBCP, the dozens of congressmen, mayors, reps, the provinces. The 80 Million Filipinos who did not join the disgraced Erap-led inter faith rally last week.  

     

    Lozada is no hero, he is not patriotic, and has no love for our country!!! He is just another Chinese businessman trying to make another buck for himself!!! By testifying in the Senate, he has nothing to lose but everything to gain.

     

    Lozada looked at his encounter with the members of the Senate purely on a “profit-loss” proposition.

     

    If his testimony becomes a pivotal point in bringing down the administration of GMA, he becomes the next NEDA Director of the next administration and if not, he could become a big political figure in Bicol.

     

    I was hoping that Senator Santiago would follow-up the question about the P700,000.00 cost of 15 goats from Australia which was imported by Mr. Lozada’s company, to find out if the imported goat could feed on local grass with the question why did it take him to import 15 goats at that price when they can get only one or two if the objective is to find out if the “mestiso” goat can feed on local grass.

     

    Lozada is just another corrupt liar, a greedy business-man out to dupe the half wit students of UST and PUP, and the flip flop clergy to dance to his self serving tune.

     

    Lozada is dead as far as credibility and honor is concerned to those who really seek for the truth, but for the demagogue like Mr. Lozada and the millions of our “kababayan”, he is a symbol of honesty and good governance… What a pity.

     

    It would be simplistic and hypocritical to say the problem of our country is the President and the men and women who are behind her. This is a dangerous misunderstanding of the crisis we are facing today.

  •  03-03-2008, 6:39 PM 2673803 in reply to 2672317

    Re: RE; ZTE SCANDAL

    dahil sa malalaking issue na ganito natatakpan ang maliliit. maraming corruption sa maliliit lang... mga baranngay... mayor... office ng mga gobyerno..... simple lang pero maramihan yun million million billion din ang nawawala sa atin. isa lang yan sa mga epekto nitong zte...

    http://www.pilipinas.cjb.net ANG WEBSITE NA ITO AY PARA SA LAHAT NG TAONG MAY GUSTONG SABIHIN, ISUMBONG, IREKLAMO TUNGKOL SA GOBYERNO O PRIBADONG SEKTOR. LAHAT NG TAO AY MALAYANG I-PROMOTE ITO.

    "POWER TO THE PEOPLE."
  •  03-04-2008, 1:32 PM 2674708 in reply to 2673803

    Re: RE; ZTE SCANDAL

    You are wrong AND Shame on you for using the name of GOD, assuming that GOD is on the side of Lozada, Lozada is nothing but a vehement, professional LIAR! Just another Chinese business-man out to make another buck for himself!. Some Filipinos are so desperate that they almost treat Lozada like a God of truth and light, though I’m seriously beginning to doubt that this LOZADA guy is really telling the truth….

     

    Before being rashly conclusive and prejudging, I urge you to investigate deeply and analyze carefully what is happening to our country. The more Lozada opens his mouth, the more you can see the cracks in his fairytale, all you need to do is to analyze what he is saying more carefully..

     

    First of all JDV’s son illegally brokered a substandard deal with the government to setup an NBN project with AHI (a company which employs him), the government turned him down because it is illegal for a relative of a seated speaker of the house to get involved in any major government contracts, lest he be accused of being corrupt! 

     

    JDV Jr. then lashed out that the Arroyo government crying that ZTE deal was overpriced, when in fact a closer comparison of the technical specifications of the AHI deal with the ZTE deal proves that it is not an apple to apple comparison, and that JDV Jr. was lying to the Filipino people from day 1. 

     

    I have attached a detailed technical comparison between the ZTE contract and the AHI contract as solid evidence that JDV Jr. is lying to all Filipino people. Please open the below link.

     

    http://www.pcij.org/blog/?p=1977

     

     

    The ever power hungry opposition LAPDOGS are so eager to oust Arroyo!!! While Arroyo is valiantly making her stand, these hungry opposition vultures can’t even agree among themselves who to be the next president!!!! Erap? Villar? Lacson? Noli? The LaSalle 60 flip-flops. All the same greedy, inept bastards to me!!!

     

    Those of you who brand Arroyo as corrupt liar without even a shred of evidence are all hypocrites! You are no different from those Jews in 30AD who cried “crucify him! Crucify him!”

     

    How can you prejudge Arroyo when the source of allegations, the professional LIAR LOZADA, cannot even provide solid evidence, BUT there is solid evidence AGAINST LOZADA proving that he imported 15 goats from Australia at the cost of P700,000,000. Why? Are these goats’ wool laced with gold??? And the funny thing is, Lozada cannot even explain this in the Senate hearings.

     

    Those who conveniently call for the ouster of Arroyo without even analyzing and understanding the complexities of Philippine Politics are either Lazy Filipinos who are terminally infected with the crab mentality or those gullible Filipinos who are mindlessly just dancing to the tune of power hungry politicians who are reeking with the stench of selfishness, or simply those foolish Filipino students who keep shouting for “change --- change” but haven’t the slightest idea of how to realistically achieve it.

     

    WHAT A PATHETIC COUNTRY!!!!

  •  03-19-2008, 10:59 AM 2687612 in reply to 2672317

    Re: RE; ZTE SCANDAL

    It is really sad that people from Manila are hitting Cardinal Vidal and dragging his name in the mess created by Jun Lozada.  Sister  Mary John Mananzan, OSB, may not know the policy in Cebu regarding masses.  The Cardinal issued a Memorandum to all churches in the arcdiocese of Cebu last year stating that no masses shall be officiated outside the church or chapels.  No masses shall be conducted in parks, malls, and other places, which are not a place of worship.  If the request of Sister Mary John was for a mass be conducted inside the USC gym, of course, the priests will turn it down because it is not a place of worship nor a church.  In addition, they have to seek permission from the Parish Priest of Sto. Rosario.

    In fact, Fr. Max Abalos, SVD, a member of the Cebuanos for Truth (C4T) that supported the visit of Lozada had stated and to quote "He has not received any memorandum from anybody or from the cardinal discouraging priests from officiating masses for Lozada.  He said that he was surprised when Sister Mary John Mananzan, OSB, Chairperson of the Association of Major Religious Superiors, called up C4T to follow-up on the mass when IT WAS NOT PART IN THE PREPARATIONS FOR THE VISIT.  At the back of my mind, I asked if the value of a mass was looked upon by the organizers and if that value was recognized, THEN THE MASS WOULD ALREADY HAVE BEEN PART IN THE PREAPARATION. SINCE WALA, AND NOW THERE IS AN AFTERTHOUGHT, I WONDER WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THIS MASS?  For me, if the purpose of the mass is not clear, why celebrate the mass?" 

  •  03-19-2008, 8:49 PM 2687883 in reply to 2687612

    Re: RE; ZTE SCANDAL

    allysa18:

    It is really sad that people from Manila are hitting Cardinal Vidal and dragging his name in the mess created by Jun Lozada.  Sister  Mary John Mananzan, OSB, may not know the policy in Cebu regarding masses.  The Cardinal issued a Memorandum to all churches in the arcdiocese of Cebu last year stating that no masses shall be officiated outside the church or chapels.  No masses shall be conducted in parks, malls, and other places, which are not a place of worship.  If the request of Sister Mary John was for a mass be conducted inside the USC gym, of course, the priests will turn it down because it is not a place of worship nor a church.  In addition, they have to seek permission from the Parish Priest of Sto. Rosario.

    In fact, Fr. Max Abalos, SVD, a member of the Cebuanos for Truth (C4T) that supported the visit of Lozada had stated and to quote "He has not received any memorandum from anybody or from the cardinal discouraging priests from officiating masses for Lozada.  He said that he was surprised when Sister Mary John Mananzan, OSB, Chairperson of the Association of Major Religious Superiors, called up C4T to follow-up on the mass when IT WAS NOT PART IN THE PREPARATIONS FOR THE VISIT.  At the back of my mind, I asked if the value of a mass was looked upon by the organizers and if that value was recognized, THEN THE MASS WOULD ALREADY HAVE BEEN PART IN THE PREAPARATION. SINCE WALA, AND NOW THERE IS AN AFTERTHOUGHT, I WONDER WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THIS MASS?  For me, if the purpose of the mass is not clear, why celebrate the mass?" 

    Wow, it is good to know that Cebuanos/Cebuanas are not like those in the Metro Manila, not naive about Lozada and his kind, not easily swayed by holier than though act.

    Also in Iloilo and Bacolod, I don't think Lozada is welcomed by the students over there, as I have watch a news flash on TV during Jun Lozada's visit . I can tell by the probing serious faces  of the students with their arms crossed and body leaning backwards.


    elgoog