blondswede:

rockjock:

blondswede:

You are like the Americans,,if you ask them were Oslo is,,they answer a country in austria

at least you're consistent as far as making generalizations. first mocking filipinos for being "stupid", and now americans!

this is what gets you into trouble. 

did i say that?

try slithering your way out of that one. there are americans in this forum.

rockjock:

blondswede:

rockjock:

blondswede:

You are like the Americans,,if you ask them were Oslo is,,they answer a country in austria

at least you're consistent as far as making generalizations. first mocking filipinos for being "stupid", and now americans!

this is what gets you into trouble. 

did i say that?

try slithering your way out of that one. there are americans in this forum.

 

no need,, you show me where!?,    Americans know this alredy 

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""Greeds
And garbage are too thick-strewn
To be swept up now, or invent
Excuses that make them all needs.
I just think it will happen, soon.""

blondswede:

Americans know this alredy

knowledge does not mean their acceptance nor gives you any right to heckle

blondswede:

you show me where!?

here...

 

 

 

 

 

 

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blondswede:

Americans know this alredy

knowledge does not mean their acceptance nor gives you any right to heckle

blondswede:

you show me where!?

here...

 

 

 

 

 

 

                     /"\
                    |\./|
                    |   |
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                    |>~<|
                    |   |
                 /'\|   |/'\..
             /~\|   |   |   | \
            |   =[@]=   |   |  \
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               \    _____    /
                |--//''`\--|
                | (( +==)) |
                |--\_|_//--|

 

 

I think they can speak for them self,,

and it´s a well know fact!  even Americans them self can joke about that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esbS_vT25GU

 

How was it now with the filty land Scandinavia,,  do you remember?

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""Greeds
And garbage are too thick-strewn
To be swept up now, or invent
Excuses that make them all needs.
I just think it will happen, soon.""

dehin ka ubra goldilocks. kitid na utak mo, baluktot pa dila mo. sinabi ko na nga sa mga kabayan ko na walang kuwenta magpunta sa bayan mo. kawawa lang sila.

ang paglalarawan mo sa walang kwentang statistika na nilabas ng gobyerno mo ay nde dapat paniwalaan. puro kasinungalingan lang. kaya nagpapasok sila ngayon ng mga tao sa bayan mo ay dahil tamad, mapanglait at nde makatao kayo. 

"the net pay is less than USD3,000. An engineer working for a call center here in the Philippines earns more than that."

 

Someone show meproof that a call center worker earn more then 3000USD net!!!!???

 

If so,, i don´t understand why someone go work abroad 

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""Greeds
And garbage are too thick-strewn
To be swept up now, or invent
Excuses that make them all needs.
I just think it will happen, soon.""

blondswede:

"the net pay is less than USD3,000. An engineer working for a call center here in the Philippines earns more than that."

 

Someone show meproof that a call center worker earn more then 3000USD net!!!!???

 

If so,, i don´t understand why someone go work abroad 

Again he have no clue what he talks 

Here are the monthly salaries for Call Center Agent.

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Position Level Min (Peso)* Average (Peso)* Max (Peso)* Supervisor / 5 Years & Up Experienced Employee 13,000.00 15,000.00 20,000.00 1-4 Years Experienced Employee 11,000.00 14,000.00 16,000.00 Fresh Grad / < 1 Year Experienced Employee 10,000.00 11,000.00 13,000.00

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No.	Position Level	Position Title	State	Age	Years of Exp.	Industry	Qualification	Salary Peso
1.	Assistant Manager / Manager	Call Center Agent	C.A.R	36	15	Services	Bachelor's / College Degree	15,000.00
2.	Supervisor / 5 Years & Up Experienced Employee	Call Center Agent	Central Luzon	37	13	Services	Post Graduate Diploma / Master's Degree	20,000.00
3.	Supervisor / 5 Years & Up Experienced Employee	call center agent	National Capital Reg	32	8	Services	Bachelor's / College Degree	17,000.00
4.	Supervisor / 5 Years & Up Experienced Employee	call center agent	National Capital Reg	32	5	Services	Bachelor's / College Degree	16,000.00
5.	Supervisor / 5 Years & Up Experienced Employee	Travel Consultant/Call Center Agent	National Capital Reg	31	11	Services	Bachelor's / College Degree	20,000.00
6.	Supervisor / 5 Years & Up Experienced Employee	Customer Service Representative/ Call Center Agent	Central Visayas	31	10	Services	Bachelor's / College Degree	11,500.00
7.	Supervisor / 5 Years & Up Experienced Employee	Call Center Agent-Technical Support	National Capital Reg	30	9	Services	Bachelor's / College Degree	18,000.00
8.	Supervisor / 5 Years & Up Experienced Employee	Call center agent	National Capital Reg	28	5	Services	Bachelor's / College Degree	15,000.00
9.	Supervisor / 5 Years & Up Experienced Employee	Outbound Call Center Agent	National Capital Reg	22	2	Services	Professional License (Passed Board / Bar / Professional License Exam)	13,000.00
10.	1-4 Years Experienced Employee	Call Center Agent	Southern Tagalog	42	11	Services	Bachelor's / College Degree	10,500.00
11.	1-4 Years Experienced Employee	Call Center Agent	National Capital Reg	42	17	Services	Bachelor's / College Degree	10,000.00
12.	1-4 Years Experienced Employee	call center agent /csr	Southern Tagalog	41	8	Services	Bachelor's / College Degree	17,000.00
13.	1-4 Years Experienced Employee	'call center agent/consultant'	National Capital Reg	40	13	Transport / Storage / Freight / Shipping	Bachelor's / College Degree	15,000.00
14.	1-4 Years Experienced Employee	Call Center Agent (outbound)	National Capital Reg	40	1	Services	Bachelor's / College Degree	12,000.00
15.	1-4 Years Experienced Employee	call center agent	National Capital Reg	37	9	Services	Bachelor's / College Degree	20,000.00
16.	1-4 Years Experienced Employee	Call Center Agent	National Capital Reg	37	6	Services	Bachelor's / College Degree	17,000.00
17.	1-4 Years Experienced Employee	Call Center Agent	National Capital Reg	37	17	Services	Post Graduate Diploma / Master's Degree	17,000.00
18.	1-4 Years Experienced Employee	Call Center Agent	National Capital Reg	37	17	Services	Bachelor's / College Degree	16,000.00
19.	1-4 Years Experienced Employee	Call Center Agent	National Capital Reg	37	9	Others	Professional License (Passed Board / Bar / Professional License Exam)	12,000.00
20.	1-4 Years Experienced Employee	Call Center Agent	National Capital Reg	35	6	Services	Bachelor's / College Degree	15,000.00
21.	1-4 Years Experienced Employee	Call center Agent	National Capital Reg	35	14	Services	Post Graduate Diploma / Master's Degree	12,000.00
22.	1-4 Years Experienced Employee	Call Center Agent-Outbound	Ilocos Region	33	6	Services	Bachelor's / College Degree	18,000.00
23.	1-4 Years Experienced Employee	Call Center Agent	National Capital Reg	33	11	Services	Bachelor's / College Degree	15,000.00
24.	1-4 Years Experienced Employee	Call Center Agent	National Capital Reg	33	5	Services	Bachelor's / College Degree	14,000.00
25.	1-4 Years Experienced Employee	Call Center Agent	Central Luzon	32	9	Services	Bachelor's / College Degree	20,000.00

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""Greeds
And garbage are too thick-strewn
To be swept up now, or invent
Excuses that make them all needs.
I just think it will happen, soon.""

blondswede:

Again he have no clue what he talks 

Here are the monthly salaries for Call Center Agent.

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only proves how stupid and ignorant you really are. you gave the rates for call center agents and not engineers - which I was talking about. obviously the difference between careers is beyond your comprehension level.

take a look at this: http://www.salaryexpert.com/index.cfm?FuseAction=Free_Salary_Intl.Report&job=60102&area=898&Action=Search

Report Summary The Software Professionals working in All Philippines, All Philippines now earns an average annual salary of 1,620,138. Half of those in this position would earn between 1,283,149 and 2,103,911 (the 17th and 67th percentiles). These numbers are derived from real, area specific, survey data. (Note: These are conservative government estimates. For competitive salary survey data based on consensus analyses of thousands of private and public salary surveys, see ERI's Salary Assessor software. This salary software covers Europe, Canada, and the United States.) When benefits and bonuses are added to this salary, the average total compensation for this position would be 1,680,619. The report below also explains how the cost of living in this location affects the actual value of this salary. More detailed information on salary, benefits, and cost of living is available below. Estimates as of 20-May-2008.  Currency in Philippine Pesos.

Software Professionals | All Philippines, All Philippines Low Average High Bonus Benefits 1,283,149 1,620,138 2,103,911 0.0% 3.7% Total Compensation:   1,680,619 Philippines National Average Low Average High Total Compensation 1,283,149 1,620,138 2,103,911 1,680,619 Cost of Living: A renter's cost of living for this area would be 1,620,138. Cost-of-living differentials reflect the demand for and supply of goods and services. Salary differences reflect the demand for and supply of labor. Currency in Philippine Pesos.

 

that's an average of USD2,967/month here. tax is around USD460.

if that doesn't convince you, here's another: http://www.salaryexpert.com/index.cfm?FuseAction=Free_Salary_Intl.Report&job=60206&area=898&Action=Search

Report Summary The Electronics Engineers working in All Philippines, All Philippines now earns an average annual salary of 1,611,292. Half of those in this position would earn between 1,118,881 and 2,091,940 (the 17th and 67th percentiles). These numbers are derived from real, area specific, survey data. (Note: These are conservative government estimates. For competitive salary survey data based on consensus analyses of thousands of private and public salary surveys, see ERI's Salary Assessor software. This salary software covers Europe, Canada, and the United States.) When benefits and bonuses are added to this salary, the average total compensation for this position would be 1,671,446. The report below also explains how the cost of living in this location affects the actual value of this salary. More detailed information on salary, benefits, and cost of living is available below. Estimates as of 20-May-2008.  Currency in Philippine Pesos.

Electronics Engineers | All Philippines, All Philippines Low Average High Bonus Benefits 1,118,881 1,611,292 2,091,940 10.3% 3.7% Total Compensation:   1,671,446 Philippines National Average Low Average High Total Compensation 1,118,881 1,611,292 2,091,940 1,671,446 Cost of Living: A renter's cost of living for this area would be 1,611,292. Cost-of-living differentials reflect the demand for and supply of goods and services. Salary differences reflect the demand for and supply of labor. Currency in Philippine Pesos.

that one's USD2,951/month on the AVERAGE. even with taxes applied, that will still be competitive to the net pay any engineer will get if they (shudder the thought) immigrate to the land of fraud and filth: sweden.

give it up. just accept how stupid you really are.

pag binangga mo pader, durog ka. bukod dun, ENGOT ka talaga. loser! geez, i need to find me a better match.

OK,, then we compare Apple's with Apple's

Now we are up with a average of  monthly salary of 9.000 USD ,, ( 4 500 000 pesos/year)

 

What i understand you also pay 30% tax in philippines 

 

 

Software Professionals | All Sweden, All Sweden
Low	Average	High	Bonus	Benefits
506,533	639,562	830,536	0.0%	3.8%
Total Compensation:   663,733
Sweden National Average
Low	Average	High	Total Compensation
506,533	639,562	830,536	663,733
Cost of Living: A renter's cost of living for this area would be 639,562. Cost-of-living differentials reflect the demand for and supply of goods and services. Salary differences reflect the demand for and supply of labor. Currency in Swedish Kronor.

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""Greeds
And garbage are too thick-strewn
To be swept up now, or invent
Excuses that make them all needs.
I just think it will happen, soon.""

USA -compare

 Avarage montly 8.100 USD

Salary Report Summary The Software Engineer working in San Francisco-San Mateo-Redwood City, CA, California now earns an average annual salary of 87,623. Half of those in this position would earn between 69,398 and 113,787 (the 17th and 67th percentiles). These numbers are derived from area-specific government survey data. (Note: These are conservative government estimates. For competitive salary survey data based on consensus analyses of thousands of private and public salary surveys, see ERI's Salary Assessor® software.) When benefits and bonuses are added to this salary, the average total compensation for this position would be 98,333. See the graph and table below to learn how the cost of living in this location affects the actual value of this salary. More detailed information on salary, benefits, and cost-of-living is available below. Estimates as of 20-May-2008.  Currency in United States of America Dollars. Are You In Compliance? --New FLSA "Overtime Rules"-- On August 23, 2004 the first major revision of the Fair Labor Standards Act in 50 years takes effect. All businesses and organizations need to understand the new Overtime Rules and develop a plan for implementing them. PAQ Services, the leader in Job Analysis for more than 30 years, is offering several live seminars to help you accomplish this. Click here for more information. Software Engineer | San Francisco-San Mateo-Redwood City, CA, California Low Average High Bonus Benefits 69,398 87,623 113,787 0.0% 12.2% Total Compensation:   98,333 United States of America National Average Low Average High Total Compensation 58,018 73,255 95,129 83,501 Cost of Living: A renter's cost of living for this area would be 101,768. This cost of living is 28,513 greater than the National norm of 73,255. Cost of living reflects the demand for and supply of goods and services. Salary differences reflect the demand for and supply for labor. Currency in United States of America Dollars.

 

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""Greeds
And garbage are too thick-strewn
To be swept up now, or invent
Excuses that make them all needs.
I just think it will happen, soon.""

given your computations and the relation of this post to the topic of this thread, it turns out that the USD150 measly difference in net monthly pay (provided your exchange rates are correct and assuming the 30% employee tax rate in sweden is accurate, although this has already been established to be false) doesn't justify going to sweden in favor of the US.

plus the fact that the US is an english-speaking country with whom filipinos have an affinity with, versus a weird-speaking nation where you'll live as a stranger in a segregated community full of pedophiles, self-absorbed and sexually perverse people, nde pa din magdadalawang-isip mga kabayan ko tumira sa tate' kasama pamilya nila kung barya lang ang pinaguusapang diperensya.

I think it´s time for you to stop compare you to Sweden and swallow you complex and envious behaviour  because anyway we will beat you all days in week 365  days/year  ,in any statistics you will still be among the losers.
Yes,, we pay high taxes and top that list of statistics,, but guess what,, we don´t have 50% of population living in the streets begging for survival,, we take care of over people by taxes., ,taxes that are not taken by corrupt leaders

And we are happy with that ,,

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""Greeds
And garbage are too thick-strewn
To be swept up now, or invent
Excuses that make them all needs.
I just think it will happen, soon.""

blondswede:

I think it´s time for you to stop compare you to Sweden and swallow you complex and envious behaviour  because anyway we will beat you all days in week 365  days/year  ,in any statistics you will still be among the losers.
Yes,, we pay high taxes and top that list of statistics,, but guess what,, we don´t have 50% of population living in the streets begging for survival,, we take care of over people by taxes., ,taxes that are not taken by corrupt leaders

And we are happy with that ,,

lumabas din ang katotohanan. ganyan lang talaga kababa pagtingin ng hayup na ito sa ating bayan. kaya ganun na lang panlalait sa atin.

rockjock:

given your computations and the relation of this post to the topic of this thread, it turns out that the USD150 measly difference in net monthly pay (provided your exchange rates are correct and assuming the 30% employee tax rate in sweden is accurate, although this has already been established to be false) doesn't justify going to sweden in favor of the US.

plus the fact that the US is an english-speaking country with whom filipinos have an affinity with, versus a weird-speaking nation where you'll live as a stranger in a segregated community full of pedophiles, self-absorbed and sexually perverse people, nde pa din magdadalawang-isip mga kabayan ko tumira sa tate' kasama pamilya nila kung barya lang ang pinaguusapang diperensya.

Ahh,,so now u compare with USA,, but you say it was better stay in Philippines??? make up you mind diba!!!

I did meet people like you before,,when not have ability to communicate and feel stressed the also use to go to abnormal behavior and think as nastier words use the better they look...but guess what,, it show how you really are,,, Envious 

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""Greeds
And garbage are too thick-strewn
To be swept up now, or invent
Excuses that make them all needs.
I just think it will happen, soon.""

to be neutral, of course other nationalities will ridicule the philippines since everyone knows it is a third world country with so much corruption in the gov't and majority wants out and looking for better opportunities abroad....It is sad and somehow degrading..I remember a korean student in the phil even questioned our love for our country...well it is up to us to change that perception if we really care then let's fight coruption....It hurts but it's true! we have the talents and brains and even speak/read/write better english than those people....we are hard workers...but still look at the PI....Sad!

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Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people.

hahahaha!!! i don't have the ability to communicate? you're overrated and really self-absorbed. take a look at your masterful (?) use of the english language. even a grade schooler here will correct your syntax and semantics. (oh. those are big words. do you need a dictionary?) and your overuse of punctuation just to make a point simply shows it's you who are stressed. it's your inability to express yourself that shows. you're no match. eloquence is my gift. bravado and braggadocio are yours. in case you don't understand those words because you concluded that i am "unable to communicate", the latter means "empty boasting". and that's not a filipino word.

by the way, have you taken your pills? you said you're 45 years OLD. you just might suffer a heart attack due to the stress you're experiencing just to reply to my posts.

envious? not the least bit. and nasty? duh! u ain't seen the rest of the gang. filipinos are impolite towards rude people like you.

(chuckle)

and try insulting people elsewhere, like maybe china. let's see if you don't get shot.