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ENGLISH PLEASE!!New NBN-ZTE witness says he saw Arroyo meet with ZTE execs

Last post 05-17-2008, 9:16 PM by prince. 51 replies.
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  •  05-15-2008, 11:54 PM 2760069 in reply to 2760064

    Re: New NBN-ZTE witness says he saw Arroyo meet with ZTE execs

    Nicolette:
    cachifox:
    Nicolette:
    prince:
    Nicolette:
    cachifox:
    Nicolette:
    cachifox:
    blondswede:

     You say:

    "AND would you mind to specify " they already admit being at ZTE....What is it."

     

     

    "President Arroyo met with officials of ZTE Corp. in Shenzhen, China for a "social lunch" five months before the firm won the contract for the $329 million National Broadband Network (NBN), Executive Secretary Eduardo Ermita said Wednesday.

    In a press conference in Malacañang Palace, Ermita said Mrs. Arroyo's trip to the ZTE office in November 2, 2006 was part of her official schedule. He also denied that Mrs. Arroyo and her husband, Jose Miguel Arroyo, discussed the proposed broadband deal with ZTE executives during the meeting.

    “You can be very sure, I’m more than 100 percent sure that no such discussion ever happened during that social lunch in Shenzhen,” Ermita told reporters.

    He said the President's group, which included Speaker Jose de Venecia and Commission on Elections Chairman Benjamin Abalos Sr., played golf and had lunch at the ZTE office"

    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=118222

     

    Aheemm.. :)..Sandali nga alin ang BAIS ba dito sa dalawang reports between ABS & GMA?

    ABS-CBN http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=118222

    GMA http://www.gmanews.tv/story/95310/Malaca&ntildeang-admits-Arroyo-met-ZTE-officials-in-China

    Ay iwan...sa di ko alam kung kaninong report and reliable...hmmm >?< .

     

    HOWEVER IT WAS REPORTED DOES NOT  MATTER...BECAUSE WHAT REALLY MATTERS IS THAT GMA, FG AND ABALOS WERE THERE IN CHINA TO MEET ZTE OFFICIALS!

    THAT'S IT!  

    STOP ACTING LIKE AN IDIOT AND PRETENDING NOT TO KNOW THE REAL SCORE OF THAT MEETING OR MEETINGS

    Oh WTF..kaya hindi umuunlad ang bayan dahil sa taong GAYA mo...and don't tell me an IDIOT because YOU ARE AN IDIOT more than me.

    Kung may problema ka sa Presidente nyo wag mong sabihin sa tao na IDIOT sila, ako, ikaw, kung hindi maniniwala DAHIL makikita sa pinagsasabi mo.

    It is MY prerogative...gayan ka magpaliwanag sa mga tao dito?...Ganyan BA..kalawak ang pinagaralan mo?...Gayan ba ang tinuturo sayo?..Yan BA ang sinabi at tinuro ng magulang mo?...Ganyan ba ang nakikita mo sa Kapaligiran mo?, ANO KANG KLASING PILIPINO, ANO KANG KLASING MAMAMAYAN?...TAO kaba?.. ang pagsasabi mong IDIOT ay HINDI pagtutulong sa TAO at tamang pagpapaliwanag sa TAO.

    Intindihin mo naman ang sinasabi mo, kung karapat dapat ka bang e ERESPITO bilang PILIPINO at mamamayang tumutulong sa bayan, Wag mong intindihin ang damdamin mo, Intindihin mo ang pinagsasabi mo DITO kung iyan ba ay makakatulong para maliwanagan ang ibang tao.

    And what's wrong with my questions at pugak ka dyan ng pugak...may NATAMAAN BA AKO?

    Bagohin MO ugali mo....ANG KASAMAAN MO AY LUBHANG TANGAY SA PINAGSASABI MO.

    AND THE TOPIC IS NOT ABOUT ME,,this is a discussion..wag mong e personal pananalita mo..KUNG MAKITID PALA ANG UTAK KO... MASMAKITID PA ANG SA SAYO.

    ANG LAKING....KA.T.A.N.G.A.H.A.N MO saan ka ba nagbabasi nang pinagsasabi mo, sa kalye?, sa tsismis?.. or Andoon ka ba sa meeting..

    "REPORTED IS DOES NOT MATTER"?... HOW DID YOU KNOW " GMA, FG AND ABALOS WERE THERE IN CHINA TO MEET ZTE OFFICIALS!" if REPORT DOES NOT MATTER....G.A.G.A..A.L.I.N.G.A.N.G.A, S.T.U.P.I.D, B.I.T.C.H..p.u.t.a.k.a.n.g.i.n.a.m.o.

    YAN BA ANG GUSTO MO NA PAGSAGOT SAYO?...bilang huwarang Pilipino..Your not helping Philippines..Your killing our country...YOU ARE NOT BUT A MORON..kinahihiya KITA...kinahihiya KO ang bawat Pilipino na GAYA MO!!!...dapat sayo batuhin hangang kamatayan, dikdikin ang labi mo...sunugin ng pino...at itapon doon sa nagbabagang apoy ng empyerno.

    If you don't want to be ripped off, don't rip off others

     

     

     If you don't want to be ripped off, don't rip off others????

    LOOK WHO'S TALKING? 

    YOU STARTED IT ALL....READ YOUR POSTING IN OTHER THREAD AND THINK ABOUT IT...

    I WAS JUST GIVING YOU YOUR OWN DOSE OF MEDICINE, MR. BAIS? 

     

    ERESPITO si cachichay!

    TAMO ASAL, NAG HUHUROMENTADO PALA ITO PAG SIYA ANG TINIRA MO... 

     

     

    I'm sorry blondswede, I respect your thread, BUT I don't respect other member here..specially NICOLETTE..and biside Am I only the one who's talking tagalog here?...I wonder.

    If you are in my side HOW do you feel this word?.."STOP ACTING LIKE AN IDIOT"...is that what I can say Thank you to him/her?

    NICOLETTE...G.A.G.A ka ba...or talagang ...alang..H.I.Y.A? sino ba ang nagsabi nito "STOP ACTING LIKE AN IDIOT " ako... mag pa respeto ka!!!!!...and be Professional...and Look If I ever Insult you in all of the threads here?....hunghang.

    TO ALL: Kung kayo sa sasabihan ng ganito: STOP ACTING LIKE AN IDIOT  ano ba sa palagay nyo....iyan ba'y kagandahang ASAL para sa kapwa Pilipino?.

    I PITY YOU....

    IMAGINE, YOU HAVE THE GUTS TO INSULT OTHERS BUT WHEN THE TABLE IS TURN AROUND, YOU'RE ACTING LIKE A PSYCHO!

    RESEMBLANCE OF MIRIAM DEFENSOR SANTIAGO...

    THAT'S WHY I KNOW THE REASON WHY YOU'RE SUPPORTING HER...

     

    YOU BOTH HAVE THE SAME FEATHERS.... 

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  •  05-16-2008, 12:25 AM 2760119 in reply to 2760069

    Re: New NBN-ZTE witness says he saw Arroyo meet with ZTE execs

    Pro or Anti Arroyo!?, its not so difficult to be pro Arroyo and say all anti Arroyo fabricate stories, lies etc, why?, becaus Arroyo control all the people with some kind of juridical or political power and can easy say all against her is lies, and if she can´t control them she just scare the heck out of them or let them disappear ( this is called dictator )

     

    In this case a individual citizen have to use common sense to figure out what iis happening and likely  being the truth, when it comes to ZTE and Xray´s and for shore more Arroyo can´t be innocent, that would be like say the world is flat  JUST TO BLOODY MUCH coincidences

     


    ""Greeds
    And garbage are too thick-strewn
    To be swept up now, or invent
    Excuses that make them all needs.
    I just think it will happen, soon.""
  •  05-16-2008, 4:26 PM 2761135 in reply to 2760119

    Re: New NBN-ZTE witness says he saw Arroyo meet with ZTE execs

     Another 6 month´s and They Nail Mickey mouse to this scam deal ,again using his wife as a Marrionet ,(sometimes i wonder if she even have a clue)And more people will speak for shore

     

     

    The deal.  

    Sen. Manuel Roxas, a co-chair of the Senate committee investigating the national broadband network scandal, said that President Arroyo is “bound by delicadeza not to meet with prospective suppliers or other interested parties in government projects while contracts are still pending.”
     
    Roxas pointed out that “official activities of the President are imbued with public interest and subject to full transparency, unless they involve sensitive matters of national security, which was not the case in the Shenzhen visit.”

     

    Suspicious
     


    "And there lies the President’s problem over those photos. “It means that she knew much more,” said Senator Alan Peter Cayetano, chair of the Senate blue ribbon committee.

    The President has not told us before that in fact she had met with the ZTE officials,” Cayetano said. “If you put this all together, the President has a lot of explaining to do. Now they are being evasive.”
     
    That the trip to Shenzhen was not made public makes it suspicious. The visit to Shenzhen was supposedly not in the President’s schedule. The reporters covering her official trip to China did not know about the golf game.

    According to Iloilo Gov. Rolex Suplico, who presented new witness “Alex,” the Chinese government was not informed of the trip. Even the Shenzhen guards at the border were supposedly surprised when the President passed through unannounced.

    Gina de Venecia, wife of Rep. Jose de Venecia, told ABS-CBN that she and her husband were last-minute invitees to Shenzhen. She said that they had neither visas to China nor a golf set but these were taken care of.
     
    “It’s suspicious,” Lacierda added. “She’s not been transparent. She’s given us little information. That makes the transaction very suspicious,” Lacierda said".

     

    I just picked out some from:

    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/topofthehour.aspx?StoryId=118459
    ""Greeds
    And garbage are too thick-strewn
    To be swept up now, or invent
    Excuses that make them all needs.
    I just think it will happen, soon.""
  •  05-16-2008, 10:04 PM 2761611 in reply to 2761135

    Re: New NBN-ZTE witness says he saw Arroyo meet with ZTE execs

    I did read the "official" happenings from 27 okt-3 of Nov at the Palace web and there are no mention about the company ZTE but many others and for shore she get "assistance" from Beijing in ZTE

    I can imagine what was happening in the ZTE deal, it all started that day with Mike Arroyo and the guy Abalos, for shore they see the opportunity to make a nice join venture deal here

    Its little strange that ZTE is not mention at all in this "diary" but not neccesary abnormal anyway.

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    "HONG KONG – President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo said on Wednesday that the Philippines has "very good prospects" of attracting huge investments from mainland China’s corporate giants, and getting significant official development assistance from Beijing.

    Assessing the outcome of her five-day, five-province trip to the mainland to co-chair the 15th Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean) + China Summit in Nanning with Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao, the President said among the top Chinese investors interested in expanding its investment in the Philippines is Bau Steel, the No. 1 steel company in China and No. 5 in the world."

    http://www.news.ops.gov.ph/archives2006/oct27.htm

    http://www.news.ops.gov.ph/archives2006/oct28.htm

    http://www.news.ops.gov.ph/archives2006/oct30.htm

    http://www.news.ops.gov.ph/archives2006/oct31.htm

    http://www.news.ops.gov.ph/archives2006/nov01.htm

     http://www.news.ops.gov.ph/archives2006/nov02.htm

     


    ""Greeds
    And garbage are too thick-strewn
    To be swept up now, or invent
    Excuses that make them all needs.
    I just think it will happen, soon.""
  •  05-16-2008, 10:25 PM 2761636 in reply to 2758533

    Re: New NBN-ZTE witness says he saw Arroyo meet with ZTE execs

    Nothing wrong with the picture....playing golf is not wrong at all.. sana wag i-divert and issue sa kuryente... hirap na po ang sambayanan.

    Jintu Montego
  •  05-16-2008, 10:32 PM 2761651 in reply to 2761636

    Re: New NBN-ZTE witness says he saw Arroyo meet with ZTE execs

    Calling the attention of the moderator...please delete multiple posts with the same content...this is spamming,

    Jintu Montego
  •  05-16-2008, 11:26 PM 2761796 in reply to 2761636

    Re: New NBN-ZTE witness says he saw Arroyo meet with ZTE execs

    jintudesigns:
    Nothing wrong with the picture....playing golf is not wrong at all.. sana wag i-divert and issue sa kuryente... hirap na po ang sambayanan.
    IT IS NOT THE PLAYING GOLF IS THE ISSUE...PI GOVT HAVING SOCIAL ACQUAINTANCE WITH A PRIVATE COMPANY AND LATER ON THE ZTE DEAL WAS APPROVED BY THE GOV'T TO DO BUSINESS WITH THEM...THE GOV'T EXCUSE OF NOT HAVING A BIDDING WAS, IT IS A GOV'T TO GOVT DEAL AND NOT ZTE AND PI DEAL...IN THE PICTURE, IT WAS  NOT THE CASE AT ALL....

    THIS IS A CLEAR MESSAGE OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST....ANY OFFICIAL OF GOVT CANNOT ACCEPT GIFTS OR FAVOR IN EXCHANGE OF GOVT PROJECTS...


    Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people.
  •  05-17-2008, 12:39 AM 2761960 in reply to 2760119

    Re: New NBN-ZTE witness says he saw Arroyo meet with ZTE execs

    blondswede:

    Pro or Anti Arroyo!?, its not so difficult to be pro Arroyo and say all anti Arroyo fabricate stories, lies etc, why?, becaus Arroyo control all the people with some kind of juridical or political power and can easy say all against her is lies, and if she can´t control them she just scare the heck out of them or let them disappear ( this is called dictator )

     

    In this case a individual citizen have to use common sense to figure out what iis happening and likely  being the truth, when it comes to ZTE and Xray´s and for shore more Arroyo can´t be innocent, that would be like say the world is flat  JUST TO BLOODY MUCH coincidences

     

     

    THAT'S WHAT I AM DRIVING AT....

      IS IT POSSIBLE THAT NOT ALL PEOPLE ARE BLESSED WITH COMMON SENSE SO THEY COULD NOT SEE THE PICTURE CLEARLY?

    OR THEY'RE REALLY FANATICS WHO WOULDN'T ACCEPT THE REALITY THAT GMA IS THE MOST CORRUPT PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME AND A BIG TIME CHEATER TOO!

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  •  05-17-2008, 4:56 PM 2763074 in reply to 2761960

    Re: New NBN-ZTE witness says he saw Arroyo meet with ZTE execs

    Nicolette:
    blondswede:

    Pro or Anti Arroyo!?, its not so difficult to be pro Arroyo and say all anti Arroyo fabricate stories, lies etc, why?, becaus Arroyo control all the people with some kind of juridical or political power and can easy say all against her is lies, and if she can´t control them she just scare the heck out of them or let them disappear ( this is called dictator )

     

    In this case a individual citizen have to use common sense to figure out what iis happening and likely  being the truth, when it comes to ZTE and Xray´s and for shore more Arroyo can´t be innocent, that would be like say the world is flat  JUST TO BLOODY MUCH coincidences

     

    One + one = Two. What else. It’s very clear now that the FG and Abalos were trying to broker a deal with some % commission from ZTE.

     

    Very unethical given their positions, but somehow I believe that PGMA was an unwitting victim of her husband’s ambitions.

     

    THAT'S WHAT I AM DRIVING AT....

      IS IT POSSIBLE THAT NOT ALL PEOPLE ARE BLESSED WITH COMMON SENSE SO THEY COULD NOT SEE THE PICTURE CLEARLY?

    OR THEY'RE REALLY FANATICS WHO WOULDN'T ACCEPT THE REALITY THAT GMA IS THE MOST CORRUPT PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME AND A BIG TIME CHEATER TOO!


    A journey always starts with the first step.
  •  05-17-2008, 5:25 PM 2763160 in reply to 2763074

    Re: New NBN-ZTE witness says he saw Arroyo meet with ZTE execs

    Lazzaluv:
    Nicolette:
    blondswede:

    Pro or Anti Arroyo!?, its not so difficult to be pro Arroyo and say all anti Arroyo fabricate stories, lies etc, why?, becaus Arroyo control all the people with some kind of juridical or political power and can easy say all against her is lies, and if she can´t control them she just scare the heck out of them or let them disappear ( this is called dictator )

     

    In this case a individual citizen have to use common sense to figure out what iis happening and likely  being the truth, when it comes to ZTE and Xray´s and for shore more Arroyo can´t be innocent, that would be like say the world is flat  JUST TO BLOODY MUCH coincidences

     

    One + one = Two. What else. It’s very clear now that the FG and Abalos were trying to broker a deal with some % commission from ZTE.

     

    Very unethical given their positions, but somehow I believe that PGMA was an unwitting victim of her husband’s ambitions.

     

    THAT'S WHAT I AM DRIVING AT....

      IS IT POSSIBLE THAT NOT ALL PEOPLE ARE BLESSED WITH COMMON SENSE SO THEY COULD NOT SEE THE PICTURE CLEARLY?

    OR THEY'RE REALLY FANATICS WHO WOULDN'T ACCEPT THE REALITY THAT GMA IS THE MOST CORRUPT PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME AND A BIG TIME CHEATER TOO!

     

    That`s what i say all along , GMA is his Marionette and Mickey Mouse are just a smart ass taking advantage of her status!!

    Butt again she is the President and should be smart and responsible enough to See this!!

    It´s like the Guy in Austria that keep his Dother prisoner in a basement for 24 YEARS rape her , got 7 kids with her,, and the MOTHER living in the same house didn´t KNOW!!!!??

     

    COME ON!!! some things can happen , but some things are just to obvious 


    ""Greeds
    And garbage are too thick-strewn
    To be swept up now, or invent
    Excuses that make them all needs.
    I just think it will happen, soon.""
  •  05-17-2008, 9:14 PM 2763505 in reply to 2763160

    Re: New NBN-ZTE witness says he saw Arroyo meet with ZTE execs

    i honestly believe that gma knows she's doing, she is an economist, smart lady but her poor judgement led the country a mess...she knows that she cannot accept any gifts or favors from a privatecompany and do business with them....it is against the law---conflict of interest!
    Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people.
  •  05-17-2008, 9:16 PM 2763510 in reply to 2763160

    Re: New NBN-ZTE witness says he saw Arroyo meet with ZTE execs

    i honestly believe that gma knows what she's doing, she is an economist, smart lady but her poor judgement led the country a mess...she knows that she cannot accept any gifts or favors from a privatecompany and do business with them....it is against the law---conflict of interest!
    Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people.
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