adrix7:

prince:

adrix7:

oh i see were you getting at.. you must be a nurse, yes i heard about corporate, pharma, travel nurses.. big bucks often times they have bigger salary than university professors!  i myself have a few friends in those field, in the corporate she adds its more relaxing..  sorry but i was just trying to make a point on why our government is not making an effort in making our motherland an industrialized nation.

 again sorry for making nurses as one of the example.. it is only because thats one of the trend that our country is pushing not to mention the "supermaid" program of gloria! even my aunt who is by the way a nurse for 30 yrs at least, is saying that philippines should be venturing to engineering and research so we can play a more major role in the global economy.

the topic that i presume we are all trying to discuss here in this forum is how can we uplift, formulate plans and motivate our leaders and country men so that we can compete and become an industrialized nation not for us but for our children. 

 its not whether you're a corporate. pharma, home for the aged, or CSI nursing or clerk, small office secretaries to big CEO's secretaries it does not matter and to which is greater?  that as a  whole lot different and a broad subject, dont even want to touch it if i may add. for me its more on how you love your work and what is your goal in it, thats how i measure or define great.

to make everything short, which would you or your children want to hear from other nations, that we are an industrialized nation and that we are a good source of professors, researchers and engineers? or a nation that is a good source of health care  (nurses, care givers, pt,) customer service(call centers) and other jobs that are less wanted by other countries?

as i have stated in my previous post.. there is absolutely nothing wrong with OFW (that includes me) doing these jobs that is being thrown to us by these industrialized nations.. what im just trying to say is i hope our government would do something to somehow lessen this trend and focus more on sustainable develpment, as one of the poster here said..

"sila na ang pupunta sa atin para mag trabaho sa mga trabaho na ayaw natin"  :-)

 

nurses vs physicists or generaly speaking engineers for that matter? hmmm dont want to touch this even.. 

great minds would not want to become nurses or specially think less of nursing, my job or any other jobs.

 

 

another imbicile comments....

 

:-( 

"great minds would not want to become nurses or specially think less of nursing, my job or any other jobs."

"to make everything short, which would you or your children want to hear from other nations, that we are an industrialized nation and that we are a good source of professors, researchers and engineers? or a nation that is a good source of health care  (nurses, care givers, pt,) customer service(call centers) and other jobs that are less wanted by other countries?"

here is your mistake again...nurses are professors and researchers too...who do you think the engineers ask about how to build a medical device that will be used by nurses? dont forget about scientists nurses and the informatics....

-scientist nurses? hehe thats cool..  are you refering to consultants? people who are being consulted by inventors, like Apple programers asking movie producers or web developers?  

 

"bottom line, pls stop making stupid comparison among diff. professional jobs....there is no right/wrong answer!

-did i ever made personal (by personal i mean, bias or rude) comparisons about professions? was not i comparing or rather refering about how/why developed nations reached where they are now or why some of our brilliant countrymen go overseas?  are you not the one who is making a big fuzz out of this issue which by the way i think youre taking personally?  

 

"maybe ask your self, which one do you prefer, the person who save your life or the one who created WII?

? is this the one your are talking about "stupid comparison?" 

 

"not everyone can be a physicists, nurses, doctors, etc....but whenever you look at their license, it all says that they are all professionals....

i believe so too,  did i ever call them less? 

 

"I have 2 brothers who are engineers, both PI grad, both top board passers...one worked in PLDT, his job is design....the project was successful but the gov't have no money...the designs they made were already obselete but still no money to even start to build it....another example, my father in law was sent here in the US to study missiles and advanced weaponry...when he returned to the phil....same thing, pi govt have no money to buy or even try to build one.... btw, that brother of mine that have 2 engr degree, went for his master...not in technology but into divinity(priesthood).....it is the calling...."

 -exactly kabayan thats my point basing from your story you belong to the smart genes! thats what i've been trying to express here, our government should be tapping/supporting this precious resources! just like our neighboring countries japan and south korea! thats the key to surviving (research in the sciences and technological field!) in this 21st century! how developed nations reached where they are right now,history will speak for itself.

 

"same goes to me...I have 2 degrees...sports medicine and nursing...did i think about the money when I register to the university...nope..it is just my passion....the other one now works in at&t/comcast....mostly computers...cool...even his kids already knows how to use the comp and the internet by age 3, but whenever they are sick...they call us...."

your passion? then for me You are doing the right thing! (been always refering to our smart folks who wanted to do scientific and technological research but dont have the support from our government.) sick when they call you? isnt this a bit off? i mean every job is just as important are you not the one personally comparing? 

 

"in the first place, if you wanna become a nurse just for the money...pls don't...you will just end up killing patients and even more will suffer...

:-) if its just for the money or if i think i can do more i could have taken a different path a long time ago.. my job does not pay much, at least for now, but this is what i want and im happy with it.

 

"to get back to your point,,,the answer is simple...jobs...no opportunities, these great minds will seek somewhere...."

yep!  again thats why our governement needs to do something about it! if we look at it closely we are actually in the same boat, for the betterment of our motherland, 

its just somehow along the way you've taken parts of my lines personally..sorry.

mabuhay po! 

 

adrix7:

there you go lawyers, computer programmers.. practically or rather mostly this guys dont do nursing job anymore..  programing is a whole lot of different field i believe you know that since one of your relatives is into it.. when i say nursing what i meant is by definition, which i know you know that already. cheers to those who ventures more!

you sound like im undermining your profession or other professions, did i ever do that? (its like spitting on my sis or relatives who are nurses) if i ever did it was even pointed at my profession :-( not that i despise my job, but i was thinking in just a little bit more bigger picture.. our countrys future is our main topic by the way.

even when i get sick i usually look up to nurses (specially the pretty ones! :-) ) the kinds one to be exact, because they are more hands on with their patient, more personal.

we both know nursing is hard and requires deligence but whats with the insecurities? its leading you to discriminate other jobs.. there are different levels of secretary (like the position they are fighting over in the apprentice show, some of this guys are in the ivy league)  just like in other professions.. some professions needs hardwork in school,  some professions needs skill and experience.. as what you have noticed here in the u.s  there's no top board passers hypes that happens across the country. i dont consider my job or other jobs superior to others.. its like a mr. moon comparing his duties to mr. sun :-)

as for the doctors who settles for nursing for money, specially doctors who graduated from a state  university in PI, they are f__kn insult to our country and most specially to themselves!!! 

what i've been trying and trying to point out is our government needs to prepare for the future and the future is scientific and technological research! (its been often the key if not always in the advancement of countries, from east to west ..)  and it needs government and our support to fund  creative people in the science and tech field like your relatives to make this stability/dream/pride of our country and its citizen happen.   

anyways if you think nursing or other jobs that being thrown to us by developed nation is enough and the future of our nation, then our government should really support the sky rocketing increase of nursing schools maybe perhaps spend more on research in this field and raise the recruitment system into a higher level(malacanang) .. after all due to International demand even the japs, koreans and some chinese nationals are now thinking of putting a retirement city in our country they even rented a big island near palawan!

mabuhay po tayo! 

that's the fact, there is a shortage of nurses around the world, and we don't have enough professors and schools...this crisis is global, and good thing countries like PI and India are helping but still not enough...The point is, nurses are not given enough credit for what they do...

let me go back about the future of PI, i agree with you we need to support our healthcare schools and make sure that we have quality education, modern equipments, and newer practices (such as evidence based medicine)....

the same goes to the other field of education....PI gov't should invest more on sholarships, grants, and loans, so no kids will be left behind with no education...period!

even when i get sick i usually look up to nurses (specially the pretty ones! :-) )----too bad if I am assigened to you, you will get a 6'1" 290 lbs male nurse....hahahaha.....

I agree with the no ranking on the board...it will just open the door for discrimination....especially with nursing, since the questions are unique for the individual test takers (it is hard to cheat---then it is also computerized) and no practical exams....

adrix7:

6'1" 290lbs!?? you are more than twice my weight! thats way beyond my fantasy lol!  and besides i dont like male nurse :-P hehe

to all my kababayan out there if you think you can do more for our country then give all you got!

i wish there would be movement (headed by ofw)  to straighten this government of ours with an iron rod!!

I MOTION FOR A REVOLUTION!!!!!!!

here in Chicago, filams are so good with programs for the PI...but instead of giving fish, teach them how to fish and give them the tools to accomplish that...but when it comes to corruption...maingay kami dit but so much we can do...pipol sa pinas have to do more and say no to corruption! no to poverty!

adrix7:

6'1" 290lbs!?? you are more than twice my weight! thats way beyond my fantasy lol!  and besides i dont like male nurse :-P hehe

to all my kababayan out there if you think you can do more for our country then give all you got!

i wish there would be movement (headed by ofw)  to straighten this government of ours with an iron rod!!

I MOTION FOR A REVOLUTION!!!!!!!

I second the motion!!

I have mentioned this before and I’ll say it again:

Why don’t we start saving up for 2010. So we can go back and meet to form our own political party with a platform of: NO MORE CORRUPTION, DOWN WITH OLIGARCHIES!

We can call our party the ROFWP (Returned Overseas Filipino Workers Party)

adrix7:

i seldom see 6'1 and 290 lbs nurses, these guys would often be professional athletes hehe.. but its an advantage too though cause you'll not have a hard time or even injure yourself in lifting patients, just recently a friend of mine got her back injured, shes been a nurse for decades now so i think it must be old age.

yes Lazzaluv  i hope all filipinos overseas should organize a massive reach out and unite to form a political party for the next presidential election! having the right people to head this campaign for major reformation of our politcal system.. im really positive we can win positions from local to national! 

we can start with online networking here in the u.s then hopefully choose a leader maybe by next yr! we should set time frame and all..

anyways we can make this happen if we all unite!

count me on this one!  

first that candidate should be a fil citizen and born back from PI. start looking for finest young fil lawyers or community leader. OFW financing the campaign...it can happen! 

prince:

adrix7:

i seldom see 6'1 and 290 lbs nurses, these guys would often be professional athletes hehe.. but its an advantage too though cause you'll not have a hard time or even injure yourself in lifting patients, just recently a friend of mine got her back injured, shes been a nurse for decades now so i think it must be old age.

yes Lazzaluv  i hope all filipinos overseas should organize a massive reach out and unite to form a political party for the next presidential election! having the right people to head this campaign for major reformation of our politcal system.. im really positive we can win positions from local to national! 

we can start with online networking here in the u.s then hopefully choose a leader maybe by next yr! we should set time frame and all..

anyways we can make this happen if we all unite!

count me on this one!  

did not made the pro but played in college div 3..acl blown but now just volunteer coach and organize asian tourneys and leagues. its kinda nice having sports medicine and nursing at the same time....

first that candidate should be a fil citizen and born back from PI. start looking for finest young fil lawyers or community leader. OFW financing the campaign...it can happen! 

Yes it could happen; this would be a world first. Calling on OFWs. Please reply your interest and let’s make it happen.

Lazzaluv:

prince:

adrix7:

i seldom see 6'1 and 290 lbs nurses, these guys would often be professional athletes hehe.. but its an advantage too though cause you'll not have a hard time or even injure yourself in lifting patients, just recently a friend of mine got her back injured, shes been a nurse for decades now so i think it must be old age.

yes Lazzaluv  i hope all filipinos overseas should organize a massive reach out and unite to form a political party for the next presidential election! having the right people to head this campaign for major reformation of our politcal system.. im really positive we can win positions from local to national! 

we can start with online networking here in the u.s then hopefully choose a leader maybe by next yr! we should set time frame and all..

anyways we can make this happen if we all unite!

count me on this one!  

did not made the pro but played in college div 3..acl blown but now just volunteer coach and organize asian tourneys and leagues. its kinda nice having sports medicine and nursing at the same time....

first that candidate should be a fil citizen and born back from PI. start looking for finest young fil lawyers or community leader. OFW financing the campaign...it can happen! 

Yes it could happen; this would be a world first. Calling on OFWs. Please reply your interest and let’s make it happen.

prince:

Lazzaluv:

prince:

adrix7:

i seldom see 6'1 and 290 lbs nurses, these guys would often be professional athletes hehe.. but its an advantage too though cause you'll not have a hard time or even injure yourself in lifting patients, just recently a friend of mine got her back injured, shes been a nurse for decades now so i think it must be old age.

yes Lazzaluv  i hope all filipinos overseas should organize a massive reach out and unite to form a political party for the next presidential election! having the right people to head this campaign for major reformation of our politcal system.. im really positive we can win positions from local to national! 

we can start with online networking here in the u.s then hopefully choose a leader maybe by next yr! we should set time frame and all..

anyways we can make this happen if we all unite!

count me on this one!  

did not made the pro but played in college div 3..acl blown but now just volunteer coach and organize asian tourneys and leagues. its kinda nice having sports medicine and nursing at the same time....

first that candidate should be a fil citizen and born back from PI. start looking for finest young fil lawyers or community leader. OFW financing the campaign...it can happen! 

Yes it could happen; this would be a world first. Calling on OFWs. Please reply your interest and let’s make it happen.

correct me if i'm wrong hindi ba iyong sa pakistan ay anak noong naassasinate ang pumalit pero dito sa US nagaaral yon? we can start looking here now, I bet maraming mga pinoy na magagaling dito na hindi nadudumihan ng putik PI politics!

That’s correct, we hope mayroon Pinoy na makabasa nito sa US or wherever who feels he/she can do service for the motherland. This could be the way to get rid of the politicos who have mismanaged the country for so long already. Please reply your interest. Thanks.

IN THAT CASE CAN ANYONE HERE POST A NEW TOPIC FOR RECRUITMENT PURPOSES?!

IN THAT WAY WE WILL KNOW WHO REALLY HERE IS WILLING TO DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN JUST KILLING TIME OR JUST PLAIN HOBBYIST 

[b/]IN THAT CASE CAN ANYONE HERE POST A NEW TOPIC FOR RECRUITMENT PURPOSES?!

IN THAT WAY WE WILL KNOW WHO REALLY HERE IS WILLING TO DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN JUST KILLING TIME OR  JUST PLAIN HOBBYIST[/b] 

peppito:

Nicolette:

peppito:

Amen-

 

I DON'T THINK THAT CRITICISM IS THE RIGHT TERM FOR VOICING OUT ONE'S OPINION...

 

LOOK AT THIS PERSON NAMED PEPPITO AND SOME OTHER FANATICS OF GMA HERE, I AM VERY SURE THAT THEY KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE ARROYO GOVT. BUT YOU NEVER HEAR THEM SAY ANYTHING BUT PRAISE AND HALLELUJAHS...

SEE NO EVIL, HEAR NO EVIL AND SPEAK NO EVIL IS A DANGEROUS KIND OF ATTITUDE!

 

EVERYBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO SPEAK UP AND VOICE THEIR SENTIMENTS AND IT WOULD BE UNFAIR NA PABAYAAN LANG NG MGA TAO ANG MGA NASA GOVT. TO DO WHAT THEY WANT!

  BE ACTIVE AND PARTICIPATE...

***

THE OTHER PROBLEM WITH THIS PRO GREEDY IS WHEN SOMEBODY TALK, THEY BOUNCE BACK AT YUNG NAG SASALITA ANG HINIHIT, INSTEAD NA YUNG MGA TAONG GUMAGAWA NG KALOKOHAN... 

 

WORLD BANK ESTIMATES RP CORRUPTION TOLL: P30 B A YEAR 

 

ikaw Nicollete ano na ba ipinost mo dito na makaktulong sa sinasabi mong problema..dba panay lang naman copy paste mo sa mga article na nababasa mo against kay GMA.. atleast ako kahit sabihin mong sumusoprta ako sa Greedy Evil..pero bukas ako sa pagbabago at vocal ako na kailanagan natin ng pagpalit at pagayos ng namumuno at sistema sa gobyerno para matapos na itong problema na ito...eh ikaw ano bang posisyon mo dito..at panay lang personal ang tinitira mo..hindi ba criticism ang tawag don..sige nga isa-isahin natin ang problema at sabihin mo nga kung ano sa tingin mo ang solusyon..o hanggang pagpapatalsik lang at pagbagsak sa gobyerno ang alam mo gaya ng mga militanteng walang ginawa kung hindi ang sumigaw ng sumigaw sa kalsada....mukhang tinamaan ka yata sa messg ng topic ngayon..at panay ang turo ng mga daliri mo..

waaahahahahaha...ahahahaha...ang saya saya

ANONG KLASENG MAMAMAYAN TAYO MAYROON. TAYO BA AY MGA TAONG MORON? HE HE HE....NAKIKITA NA NATIN PINAGLOLOKO TAYO AT NINANAKAWAN NG GLORIANG ITO MULA NG SIYA AY NAUPONG PRESIDENTE NG PILIPINAS NOONG 2001 AY WALA PA TAYONG GINAGAWANG SOLUTION MAGPAHANGGANG NGAYON. NGAYON SABIHIN NINYO SA AKIN KUNG SIYA AY ISANG MABUTING PRESIDENTE NA KARAMIHAN SA ATING MAMAMAYAN AY GUTOM. BAKIT NAGLABASAN ANG MGA ANOMALYANG CORRUPTION MAGMULA NG SIYA AY NANUNGKULAN PRESIDENTE. KUNG ISA SIYANG MABUTING PRESIDENTE AY WALA SANANG CORRUPTION NAGAGANAP NA HANGGANG NGAYON AY UNDER INVESTIGATION. ANG PROOF AY NANDIYAN NGUNIT HIGIT YATANG MAKAPANGYARIHAN ANG "SALAPI" (FILIPINO CULTURE) TAPALAN ANG "TRUTH" NA DAPAT LUMABAS SA GAPOS NG KASINUNGALINGAN. HINDI BA ALAM NG MGA PILIPINO NA KAPAG LUMABAS ANG "TRUTH" SA LAHAT NG ITINATAGONG KAWALANGHIYAAN AY DITO TAYO MAGSISIMULANG UMUNLAD SAPAGKAT HINDI NATIN PINAHIHINTULUTANG MAMAYANI ANG EVIL ACT.

TRUTH WILL SET US FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

tuaocagayan:

ANONG KLASENG MAMAMAYAN TAYO MAYROON. TAYO BA AY MGA TAONG MORON? HE HE HE....NAKIKITA NA NATIN PINAGLOLOKO TAYO AT NINANAKAWAN NG GLORIANG ITO MULA NG SIYA AY NAUPONG PRESIDENTE NG PILIPINAS NOONG 2001 AY WALA PA TAYONG GINAGAWANG SOLUTION MAGPAHANGGANG NGAYON. NGAYON SABIHIN NINYO SA AKIN KUNG SIYA AY ISANG MABUTING PRESIDENTE NA KARAMIHAN SA ATING MAMAMAYAN AY GUTOM. BAKIT NAGLABASAN ANG MGA ANOMALYANG CORRUPTION MAGMULA NG SIYA AY NANUNGKULAN PRESIDENTE. KUNG ISA SIYANG MABUTING PRESIDENTE AY WALA SANANG CORRUPTION NAGAGANAP NA HANGGANG NGAYON AY UNDER INVESTIGATION. ANG PROOF AY NANDIYAN NGUNIT HIGIT YATANG MAKAPANGYARIHAN ANG "SALAPI" (FILIPINO CULTURE) TAPALAN ANG "TRUTH" NA DAPAT LUMABAS SA GAPOS NG KASINUNGALINGAN. HINDI BA ALAM NG MGA PILIPINO NA KAPAG LUMABAS ANG "TRUTH" SA LAHAT NG ITINATAGONG KAWALANGHIYAAN AY DITO TAYO MAGSISIMULANG UMUNLAD SAPAGKAT HINDI NATIN PINAHIHINTULUTANG MAMAYANI ANG EVIL ACT.

TRUTH WILL SET US FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

ISA PA. KUNG MABUTING PRESIDENTE SI GLORIA AY DIN SANAY ANG NAKAKAMTAN NATING KABUHAYAN AY HEAD LINE SA NEWS THAT SAYING "WALANG PILIPINONG MAGUGUTOM". "WALANG PILIPINONG MANGINGIBANG BAYAN UPANG MAGPAALIPIN" "WALANG PILIPINONG PULUBI" WALANG MAGNANAKAW SA PAMAHALAAN" WALA NG BASTOS SA PAMAHALAAN" WALA NG PRESIDENTENG SINUNGALING, MANDARAYA AT MAGNANAKAW"

ITO ANG KULANG SA ATING PAGBABAGO. THE PRESIDENT SHOULD LEAD BY GOOD EXAMPLE TO ALL FILIPINOS.  

adrix7:

there is really no use of trying to prove who's right or wrong, we all have the same objective ( i assume..) to make our country a more better place, stable, strong and more self sustaining!

humility is one of the key to our nations true progress, specially with us pinoy, a christian country. other than just exercising our fingers in the keyboards, we should really pause and ask ourselves in what way can we really do to help our ailing country..??

what legacy can we leave behind...? 

mabuhay po! 

prince:

adrix7:

there is really no use of trying to prove who's right or wrong, we all have the same objective ( i assume..) to make our country a more better place, stable, strong and more self sustaining!

humility is one of the key to our nations true progress, specially with us pinoy, a christian country. other than just exercising our fingers in the keyboards, we should really pause and ask ourselves in what way can we really do to help our ailing country..??

what legacy can we leave behind...? 

mabuhay po! 

sa gov't kailangan may accountability, may batas sa dios, may batas ng tao...dapat lang na parusahan ang may kasalanan....hindi puede iyong milyon milyun ang kurakot tapos sorry lang ok na.....

hehe did i mention about forgiving them? i was refering to debating writers here.. 

patriots unite and build a strong force to make a big difference.

mabuhay po!