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Was it ethical for President Arroyo to have played golf with officials of ZTE Corporation, which was vying for a supply contract in the national broadband deal?

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  •  05-19-2008, 8:48 PM 2767401

    Was it ethical for President Arroyo to have played golf with officials of ZTE Corporation, which was vying for a supply contract in the national broadband deal?

    Was it ethical for President Arroyo to have played golf with officials of ZTE Corporation, which was vying for a supply contract in the national broadband deal?

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  •  05-19-2008, 9:37 PM 2767497 in reply to 2767401

    Re: Was it ethical for President Arroyo to have played golf with officials of ZTE Corporation, which was vying for a supply contract in the national broadband deal?

    Of course not!

    This President does not have that.

    What is ethics? 

    She and her family do not know

    the meaning of that word!!! 

    Because it is not important....

    ...for as long as they rule.... 

  •  05-19-2008, 10:05 PM 2767537 in reply to 2767497

    Re: Was it ethical for President Arroyo to have played golf with officials of ZTE Corporation, which was vying for a supply contract in the national broadband deal?

    the sad truth is that we as a people have short memories. marcos won over her father's reelection campaign because marcos' platform was to build a new society aimed at toppling diosdado macapagal's corrupt leadership. thievery runs in the blood line.
  •  05-19-2008, 10:11 PM 2767547 in reply to 2767537

    Re: Was it ethical for President Arroyo to have played golf with officials of ZTE Corporation, which was vying for a supply contract in the national broadband deal?

    She got caught!
    Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people.

  •  05-20-2008, 1:20 PM 2769192 in reply to 2767401

    Re: Was it ethical for President Arroyo to have played golf with officials of ZTE Corporation, which was vying for a supply contract in the national broadband deal?

    Definitions;

    PROJECT = National Broadband Network (NBN)

    CLIENT = the Philippine Government

    CONTRACTOR = ZTE, a chinese company, good provider

    DEALER = the incumbent politicians (trapos), the golfers in shenzen

    VICTIMS = Filipino taxpayers

    In any business, for the dealers, the more commissions or profits the better.

  •  05-20-2008, 1:25 PM 2769206 in reply to 2767547

    Re: Was it ethical for President Arroyo to have played golf with officials of ZTE Corporation, which was vying for a supply contract in the national broadband deal?

    I think that it wasn't such a good idea...

    ...and especially for JDV to walk in "hostile territory"

     

  •  05-20-2008, 4:48 PM 2769671 in reply to 2767401

    Re: Was it ethical for President Arroyo to have played golf with officials of ZTE Corporation, which was vying for a supply contract in the national broadband deal?

    For delicadeza, she should not have done that. It redound to her self vested interest insinuating that ZTE will surely get the contract. As a President, she must know her limitation when to act and how to act especially in dealing with prospective bidders in any government business for ensuring integrity and transparency.

    This is really a rotten governance.

     

  •  05-20-2008, 4:50 PM 2769676 in reply to 2767401

    Re: Was it ethical for President Arroyo to have played golf with officials of ZTE Corporation, which was vying for a supply contract in the national broadband deal?

    no, is not ethical for the president play golf with bidders for the govertment contract, dapat nga nitong mga tao sa malacanyang tamaan na ng kidlat para malaman na natin kong sino ang mga nag sasabi ng totoo dba, pero malapit na tayong makabawi nito at pag alis nya sa malacanyang ay dadagsa ang mga kaso nya tongkol sa mga pagnanakaw nya sa kaban ng bayan ok, salamat at sana nga tamaan na sila ng kidlat
  •  05-21-2008, 4:57 AM 2770698 in reply to 2769676

    Re: Was it ethical for President Arroyo to have played golf with officials of ZTE Corporation, which was vying for a supply contract in the national broadband deal?

    celso corres:
    no, is not ethical for the president play golf with bidders for the govertment contract, dapat nga nitong mga tao sa malacanyang tamaan na ng kidlat para malaman na natin kong sino ang mga nag sasabi ng totoo dba, pero malapit na tayong makabawi nito at pag alis nya sa malacanyang ay dadagsa ang mga kaso nya tongkol sa mga pagnanakaw nya sa kaban ng bayan ok, salamat at sana nga tamaan na sila ng kidlat

    ETHIC MEANS the discipline dealing with what is GOOD & BAD & with MORAL DUTY & OBLIGATION. There's nothing bad from a President of the Philippines to play golf with bidders for the government contract if only there were no CORRUPTIONS involved. But the big IF the government is corrupt like the cancelled/overprized zte/nbn deal that up to now still under investigation (without conclusion) a PRESIDENT involved to a serious crime "LIKE THIS" that playing golf with the accessories is ethically bad behavior because there is an hidden agenda of CORRUPTIONS.

  •  05-21-2008, 8:28 AM 2770829 in reply to 2770698

    Re: Was it ethical for President Arroyo to have played golf with officials of ZTE Corporation, which was vying for a supply contract in the national broadband deal?

    tuaocagayan:

    celso corres:
    no, is not ethical for the president play golf with bidders for the govertment contract, dapat nga nitong mga tao sa malacanyang tamaan na ng kidlat para malaman na natin kong sino ang mga nag sasabi ng totoo dba, pero malapit na tayong makabawi nito at pag alis nya sa malacanyang ay dadagsa ang mga kaso nya tongkol sa mga pagnanakaw nya sa kaban ng bayan ok, salamat at sana nga tamaan na sila ng kidlat

    ETHIC MEANS the discipline dealing with what is GOOD & BAD & with MORAL DUTY & OBLIGATION. There's nothing bad from a President of the Philippines to play golf with bidders for the government contract if only there were no CORRUPTIONS involved. But the big IF the government is corrupt like the cancelled/overprized zte/nbn deal that up to now still under investigation (without conclusion) a PRESIDENT involved to a serious crime "LIKE THIS" that playing golf with the accessories is ethically bad behavior because there is an hidden agenda of CORRUPTIONS.

    hehehe..your partially right BUT "(without conclusion) " ...and "a PRESIDENT involved to a serious crime "LIKE THIS" that playing golf with the accessories is ethically bad behavior because there is an hidden agenda of CORRUPTIONS." IS THIS NOT A CONCLUSION?

    To emphasized "BECAUSE THERE IS AN HIDDEN AGENDA OF CORRUPTION"...do I need to doubt with this, that this not a conclusion in that matter?


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  •  05-21-2008, 8:50 AM 2770844 in reply to 2767497

    Re: Was it ethical for President Arroyo to have played golf with officials of ZTE Corporation, which was vying for a supply contract in the national broadband deal?

    For me, I don't think it is ethical for President Arroyo to have played golf with ZTE officials because we do not know yet the whole story of that meeting there. As long as there is no secret conversation regarding the controversy of ZTE-braodband deal, then we cannot judge or assume what the fact is.
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  •  05-21-2008, 9:56 AM 2770915 in reply to 2767537

    Re: Was it ethical for President Arroyo to have played golf with officials of ZTE Corporation, which was vying for a supply contract in the national broadband deal?

    yes i believe in you that macapagals family are corrupt, if GMA have no intention about the transaction why she tell the truth or payagan ang mga cabinet niya "Neri" nasabhn ang 22o...pambihira taung mga pinoy alam na natin na mali na ang pres natin nandyn parin masgrabe pa siya ki erap malala pa siya sa taohan ni makoy...
  •  05-21-2008, 10:20 AM 2770945 in reply to 2769192

    Re: Was it ethical for President Arroyo to have played golf with officials of ZTE Corporation, which was vying for a supply contract in the national broadband deal?

    Yes! the victims we Filipino taxpayers; sila mga nasa government kinakasohan nila yong mga taong hndi nagbabayad na tama na TAX tama lang yon PERO yong mga hayag hayagan na pag daraya o pag loloko sa mga FILIPINO ay kanilang tinatangol... ano ba ang justice system natind ito sa pinas nasan na ang mga mural nila ang hling naman lang natin ay malaman ang totoo pero bakit ba gigil na gigil sila na pigilin na malaman ng sambayanan filipino... mahirap sa taong binibigyan ng pera... wala na magawa kondi sumonod sa taong may pera at kapangyarihan.. akala ko tayo ay para sa katotohanan lamang pero ang nag yayari sa atin wala na yata totoo... ang issue na ito ay matagal na tapos dahil ang mga issue nga yon ay nililihis ng governo. kong matatandaan natin noon ang sabi ni "yup" wala crisis sa bigas pero makalipas ng ilang araw ang sabi niya "tama naman tomaas ang bigas dahil mataas ang mga "fertilizer" ang aking pag kaalam di naman gumagamit ang bigas nag fertilizer kundi ang palay pero kong tingnan natin ang unang tumaas ay ang bigas hindi ang palay... HAHAHA.... wala pala si YUP at ang ating government akala ko ba sila ay mga economist... so ibig sabhin lang ang mga issue sa ZTE ay totoong binobora na ng mga taga administrasyong arroyo. it is so sad so dapat na siguro ang panindigan ni gloria na hindi siya "SAKIM" tulad na sinabi niya noon before siya mag sumpa sa EDSA.
  •  05-21-2008, 10:30 AM 2770963 in reply to 2770945

    Re: Was it ethical for President Arroyo to have played golf with officials of ZTE Corporation, which was vying for a supply contract in the national broadband deal?

    even if the visit was "ethical" in its truest sense, it is still irresponsible and does not reflect good judgment on her part.

    how would you feel if you found out your own mother was talking to the "funeraria" or the insurance company while you're still well and alive in the hospital? 

  •  05-21-2008, 11:57 AM 2771193 in reply to 2770915

    Re: Was it ethical for President Arroyo to have played golf with officials of ZTE Corporation, which was vying for a supply contract in the national broadband deal?

    lorenzfs:
    yes i believe in you that macapagals family are corrupt, if GMA have no intention about the transaction why she tell the truth or payagan ang mga cabinet niya "Neri" nasabhn ang 22o...pambihira taung mga pinoy alam na natin na mali na ang pres natin nandyn parin masgrabe pa siya ki erap malala pa siya sa taohan ni makoy...

    Yung governance niya hindi naman mas grabe kay Erap. Si Erap walang nagawa sa ekonomiya, convicted of plunder pa. Hindi rin siya mas malala kay Macoy. Nung Martial Law, lahat ng kalayaan supressed. Hindi ka libreng ihayag yung opposition mo sa gobyerno, di tulad ngayon na libreng-libre ka at walang takot.

  •  05-21-2008, 12:05 PM 2771222 in reply to 2771193

    Re: Was it ethical for President Arroyo to have played golf with officials of ZTE Corporation, which was vying for a supply contract in the national broadband deal?

    pian:

    lorenzfs:
    yes i believe in you that macapagals family are corrupt, if GMA have no intention about the transaction why she tell the truth or payagan ang mga cabinet niya "Neri" nasabhn ang 22o...pambihira taung mga pinoy alam na natin na mali na ang pres natin nandyn parin masgrabe pa siya ki erap malala pa siya sa taohan ni makoy...

    Yung governance niya hindi naman mas grabe kay Erap. Si Erap walang nagawa sa ekonomiya, convicted of plunder pa. Hindi rin siya mas malala kay Macoy. Nung Martial Law, lahat ng kalayaan supressed. Hindi ka libreng ihayag yung opposition mo sa gobyerno, di tulad ngayon na libreng-libre ka at walang takot.

     

     

    GOOD GOVERNANCE HA...KAYA PALA GMA IS THE MOST CORRUPT PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME...

    WORLD BANK ESTIMATES RP CORRUPTION TOLL: P30 B A YEAR

     

    IT'S VERY UNETHICAL OF HER TO GO TO CHINA TOGETHER WITH HER HUSBAND AND ALIPORES AND PLAY GOLF WITH A SUPPLIER WHO'S APPLICATION IS STILL PENDING OR UNDER NEGOTIATIONS...

    EVEN IN PRIVATE COMPANY YOU DON'T DO THAT....FOR DELICADEZA'S SAKE!

     

    PERO WALA NGA PALA NOON SI MOTHER EVIL... ..IMAGINE, HOW MUCH THE GOVT. SPENT FOR THEIR TRIP AND HOTEL AND OTHER EXPENSES...OR BAKA NAMAN INILIBRE SILA NG ZTE OFFICIALS PARA MAPADALI ANG PAG SARA NG CONTRACT...

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  •  05-21-2008, 12:14 PM 2771235 in reply to 2771193

    Re: Was it ethical for President Arroyo to have played golf with officials of ZTE Corporation, which was vying for a supply contract in the national broadband deal?

    pian:

    lorenzfs:
    yes i believe in you that macapagals family are corrupt, if GMA have no intention about the transaction why she tell the truth or payagan ang mga cabinet niya "Neri" nasabhn ang 22o...pambihira taung mga pinoy alam na natin na mali na ang pres natin nandyn parin masgrabe pa siya ki erap malala pa siya sa taohan ni makoy...

    Yung governance niya hindi naman mas grabe kay Erap. Si Erap walang nagawa sa ekonomiya, convicted of plunder pa. Hindi rin siya mas malala kay Macoy. Nung Martial Law, lahat ng kalayaan supressed. Hindi ka libreng ihayag yung opposition mo sa gobyerno, di tulad ngayon na libreng-libre ka at walang takot.

    good dahil may kalayaan pala tayong ibulgar ang baho ni gma, but it does not excuse GMA for her wrong doing...comparing her from the past will not help PI....
    Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people.

  •  05-21-2008, 12:36 PM 2771287 in reply to 2771235

    Re: Was it ethical for President Arroyo to have played golf with officials of ZTE Corporation, which was vying for a supply contract in the national broadband deal?

    naisip ko lang kung pang-kids ba kaya ang putter ni GMA? hehehe

  •  05-21-2008, 5:42 PM 2771953 in reply to 2767401

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    Re: Was it ethical for President Arroyo to have played golf with officials of ZTE Corporation, which was vying for a supply contract in the national broadband deal?

    I am really perturbed by the question about GMA's visit to the headquarters of ZTE. I do not find it ethical, that is a searing fact just like the fortune it takes to buy rice nowadays. But the question raises more questions than answers. The fact that the label "President" was appended to GMA's name can be a topic of debates, especially in the streets. It was unethical on he part to go and play golf with ZTE officials but it is more unethical and deeply immoral to cheat and steal the votes in 2004 under our noses. It is also more unethical and more immoral to kill journalists and activists trying to remove a userper from her stolen office. More than the call of earth, it is the call of heaven that killing and stealing are mortal sins. But the call of heaven will not remove this thief from office, it lies in this mundane right on our hands.

    We are incensed by the corruption but we should also be incensed by the killing and cheating. We condemn the sin and love the sinner, the bible tells us but I think in this case He will overlook and consider this a way of restitution if we condemn both.

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  •  05-21-2008, 5:43 PM 2771954 in reply to 2767401

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    Re: Was it ethical for President Arroyo to have played golf with officials of ZTE Corporation, which was vying for a supply contract in the national broadband deal?

    I am really perturbed by the question about GMA's visit to the headquarters of ZTE. I do not find it ethical, that is a searing fact just like the fortune it takes to buy rice nowadays. But the question raises more questions than answers. The fact that the label "President" was appended to GMA's name can be a topic of debates, especially in the streets. It was unethical on he part to go and play golf with ZTE officials but it is more unethical and deeply immoral to cheat and steal the votes in 2004 under our noses. It is also more unethical and more immoral to kill journalists and activists trying to remove a userper from her stolen office. More than the call of earth, it is the call of heaven that killing and stealing are mortal sins. But the call of heaven will not remove this thief from office, it lies in this mundane right on our hands.

    We are incensed by the corruption but we should also be incensed by the killing and cheating. We condemn the sin and love the sinner, the bible tells us but I think in this case He will overlook and consider this a way of restitution if we condemn both.

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