But that is the problem of being a catholic, nagiging tamad tayo because the priest have brainwashed us into believing that no matter what God will provide
Kung nagtuturo ng katamaran ang gobyerno by giving alms, nagtuturo rin ng katamaran ang simbahan by making us put our hopes into divine intervention. I mean mag anak ng mag anak kahit di kayang buhayin but put our faith in the lord na makakaraois tayo is a catholic form of pagwawalang bahala  Yeah I know me araw ng paghuhukom but then we are concentrating on our time here sa earth na pag di naagapan ang interference nila in our lifetime, the resulti will be disastrous for the economy and it will happen today in our lifetime.

I mean sa Vatican, painagdedebatihan yan dahil may mga Western priest na agree sa population control,problem is just because di pa napapagdesisyunan ng Roma ang issue, it does not mean na kontra na lang ng kontra ang simbahan with zeal sa bagay na di naman nila naiintindihan. I am not turning my back sa catholicism but I want the bishops to just shut up,and wag sumali sa di nila naiintindihan

 

 BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD...AND I DON' THINK NA PWEDE YUNG BAGUHIN TULAD NG CONSTITUTION...AT IAKMA SA PANAHON...

IT'S NOT ONLY THE CATHOLICS.. BECAUSE WE HAVE NEIGHBORS WHO BELONG TO DIFFERENT RELIGIONS LIKE JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, INC, MGA CHRISTIANS AND OTHER SECT NA MARAMI RING MGA ANAK... 

WHAT ABOUT THE MUSLIMS...THEY HAVE KORAN AT SILA PWEDENG MAG ASAWA NG KAHIT ILAN....AT MAG ANAK NG KAHIT GAANO KARAMI....

 

WHY FOCUS ON CBCP?

 

IN MY OPINION, RELIGION DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH  THE GROWTH OF POPULATION..

 

IT'S THE COUPLE... 

 

BAGO SILA MAG PRODUCE, ISIPIN NILA KUNG KAYA BA NILA ANG MGA RESPONSIBILITIES THAT GO WITH IT.... 

THERE ARE OTHER NATURAL WAYS TO LIMIT THEIR CHILDREN....IF THEY ONLY WANT TO..

 

BUT 

I AM VERY GLAD THAT MY PARENTS GAVE US A CHANCE TO BE BORN AND SEE THE WORLD!

Nicolette:

 

 BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD...AND I DON' THINK NA PWEDE YUNG BAGUHIN TULAD NG CONSTITUTION...AT IAKMA SA PANAHON...

IT'S NOT ONLY THE CATHOLICS.. BECAUSE WE HAVE NEIGHBORS WHO BELONG TO DIFFERENT RELIGIONS LIKE JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, INC, MGA CHRISTIANS AND OTHER SECT NA MARAMI RING MGA ANAK... 

WHAT ABOUT THE MUSLIMS...THEY HAVE KORAN AT SILA PWEDENG MAG ASAWA NG KAHIT ILAN....AT MAG ANAK NG KAHIT GAANO KARAMI....

 

WHY FOCUS ON CBCP?

 

IN MY OPINION, RELIGION DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH  THE GROWTH OF POPULATION..

 

IT'S THE COUPLE... 

 

BAGO SILA MAG PRODUCE, ISIPIN NILA KUNG KAYA BA NILA ANG MGA RESPONSIBILITIES THAT GO WITH IT.... 

THERE ARE OTHER NATURAL WAYS TO LIMIT THEIR CHILDREN....IF THEY ONLY WANT TO..

 

BUT 

I AM VERY GLAD THAT MY PARENTS GAVE US A CHANCE TO BE BORN AND SEE THE WORLD!

problema se_x sa catholic ay dapat for making babies lang....hindi puede iyong init ng katawan or for enjoyment lang kung we will take it literally...

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jacobus1982:

Ibalik na rin kaya nila inquisition para makapanakot sila. The problem sa mga pari, di naman sila political party and yet gusto nila na yung pag disobey sa doktrina nila ay magkaron ng civil sanctions.Is'nt that childish. " ang sumoporya sa birth control, di namin bibigyan ng communion" I can almost imagine the words coming from a crying baby

WHat was said in the bible to Adam and Eve that they must multiplied, Im sure God himself did not expect the population to swell this many because his beloved church is run by IRRESPONSIBLE clergymen. I mean everytime me shortage, laging sinisisi ang gobyerno, pag walang makain, pag walang paaralan. Ilang beses na kayong nag simba para lang makakita ng mga NAMAMALIMOS sa harap mismo ng simbahan na di naman nila nililimusan and then they go blah blah " anuma ang iyong ginagwa sa iyong kapatid ay sya ring ginagawa nyo sakin." then sa huli gobyerno rin ang nagtatake care sa mga street children.

Through out the ages, napatunayan na ignorante ang church sa mga scientific na topics (ie, earth centered universe). Di ba nila alam na during reproduction,million of egg cells ang namamatay dahil 1 sperm cell lang ang makakapasok at mabubuo. When a person masturb@tes (which according to the church is also a SIN but accoring to science is a normal body process), don't the eggs die as soon as they are exposed to the air?Is that a sin? Ibig sabihin me mortal na kasalanan ka na dahil pag nakipagtalik ka sa asawa mo, sa milyon milyon na egg cells, isa lang ang mafefertilize at marami ang mamamatay??Ibig bang sabihin lahat ng egg cells me kaluluwa na di pa nabubuo????OH and the EARTH IS THE CENTER OF THE SOLAR SYSTEM ( Pope John Paul II, ano yung pinag sosorry nyo ke Galileo Galilee na nagkamali kayo??)

Kung nabuo na at pinatay mo,(abortion) I can understand,murder na yan dahil nabuo na pero yung gagamit ka lang ng condom tapos pagbabawalan ka ng simbahan. di ba sobra na yun? I am a catholic pero open minded ako, taon taon angdaming pinapanganak na bata para lang mamatay sa gutom,maging prostitute paglaki, maging adik,maging magnanakaw o mamamatay tao. Sa totoo lang, pinagdedebatihan pa ang population control sa vatican dahil tanngap ng ibang western catholic priest na kailangan nating makipag cope up sa modern changes  then heto yung mga cross dresser na pari na ito(who ironically does not even respect the human rights of the gay community) saying "pag sinuportahan nyo bawal kayo sa communion" "pag sinuportahan nyo, ikakampanya namin kalaban nyo" HELLO separation of church and state. Excuse me, di po kayo politiko mga mahal namin pari dahil di naman kayo NAGBABAYAD ng buwis.

At least ang gobyerno (I hate it but this is one of the times I am siding with them) me praktikal na solusyon, di katulad ng simbahan, DASAL. DASAL. DASAL, I mean nag aral ako sa Catholic school at lahat ng donasyon nila kinukuha nila sa estudyante nila
(" Class, ang magbigay sa mahihirap, nagbibigay ke Jesus") . Tingnan lang muna nila yung labas ng simbahan nila,check yung mga namamalimos tapos pag tinanong mo sila, they will probably say "Trabaho ng gobyerno yan, ang trabaho namin, ang kaligtasan ng kaluluwa nila" Well Padre Damasos, ang gusto naming maligtas ay ang ekonomya at kumakalam naming tyan.

Kung kailangan harassin ang simbahan, harassin, dapat ng ipatupad ang control, buwisan pag umangal tutal naman nang haharass rin sila na di ikakampanya o di bibigyan ng komunyon, tao lang ang pari, nagkakamali rin yan 

 

Before people came out with scientific evidences, the church believes that illnesses and diseases were associated with sins. Kung may sakit ka, makasalanan ka.

Nicolette:

 

 BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD...AND I DON' THINK NA PWEDE YUNG BAGUHIN TULAD NG CONSTITUTION...AT IAKMA SA PANAHON...

IT'S NOT ONLY THE CATHOLICS.. BECAUSE WE HAVE NEIGHBORS WHO BELONG TO DIFFERENT RELIGIONS LIKE JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, INC, MGA CHRISTIANS AND OTHER SECT NA MARAMI RING MGA ANAK... 

WHAT ABOUT THE MUSLIMS...THEY HAVE KORAN AT SILA PWEDENG MAG ASAWA NG KAHIT ILAN....AT MAG ANAK NG KAHIT GAANO KARAMI....

 

WHY FOCUS ON CBCP?

 

IN MY OPINION, RELIGION DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH  THE GROWTH OF POPULATION..

 

IT'S THE COUPLE... 

 

BAGO SILA MAG PRODUCE, ISIPIN NILA KUNG KAYA BA NILA ANG MGA RESPONSIBILITIES THAT GO WITH IT.... 

THERE ARE OTHER NATURAL WAYS TO LIMIT THEIR CHILDREN....IF THEY ONLY WANT TO..

 

BUT 

I AM VERY GLAD THAT MY PARENTS GAVE US A CHANCE TO BE BORN AND SEE THE WORLD!

Nicolette, you have said it beautifully.

The RCC respects individuality or in clearer terms the individual conscience. It is not ruled by the sword but by the word of the Lord.

 

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A journey always starts with the first step.

prince:

Nicolette:

 

 BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD...AND I DON' THINK NA PWEDE YUNG BAGUHIN TULAD NG CONSTITUTION...AT IAKMA SA PANAHON...

IT'S NOT ONLY THE CATHOLICS.. BECAUSE WE HAVE NEIGHBORS WHO BELONG TO DIFFERENT RELIGIONS LIKE JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, INC, MGA CHRISTIANS AND OTHER SECT NA MARAMI RING MGA ANAK... 

WHAT ABOUT THE MUSLIMS...THEY HAVE KORAN AT SILA PWEDENG MAG ASAWA NG KAHIT ILAN....AT MAG ANAK NG KAHIT GAANO KARAMI....

 

WHY FOCUS ON CBCP?

 

IN MY OPINION, RELIGION DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH  THE GROWTH OF POPULATION..

 

IT'S THE COUPLE... 

 

BAGO SILA MAG PRODUCE, ISIPIN NILA KUNG KAYA BA NILA ANG MGA RESPONSIBILITIES THAT GO WITH IT.... 

THERE ARE OTHER NATURAL WAYS TO LIMIT THEIR CHILDREN....IF THEY ONLY WANT TO..

 

BUT 

I AM VERY GLAD THAT MY PARENTS GAVE US A CHANCE TO BE BORN AND SEE THE WORLD!

problema se_x sa catholic ay dapat for making babies lang....hindi puede iyong init ng katawan or for enjoyment lang kung we will take it literally...

 

Aba eh mahirap talagang pigilan ang init ng katawan, pero alam ng Diyos iyan kaya nga mayroon tinatawag na kumpisal para sa mga nagkakamali.

So, mangumpisal ka nalang at humingi ng patawad at tuloy ang ligaya! hehehe…

 

 

 

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Relax lang

Lazzaluv:

Nicolette:

 

 BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD...AND I DON' THINK NA PWEDE YUNG BAGUHIN TULAD NG CONSTITUTION...AT IAKMA SA PANAHON...

IT'S NOT ONLY THE CATHOLICS.. BECAUSE WE HAVE NEIGHBORS WHO BELONG TO DIFFERENT RELIGIONS LIKE JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, INC, MGA CHRISTIANS AND OTHER SECT NA MARAMI RING MGA ANAK... 

WHAT ABOUT THE MUSLIMS...THEY HAVE KORAN AT SILA PWEDENG MAG ASAWA NG KAHIT ILAN....AT MAG ANAK NG KAHIT GAANO KARAMI....

 

WHY FOCUS ON CBCP?

 

IN MY OPINION, RELIGION DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH  THE GROWTH OF POPULATION..

 

IT'S THE COUPLE... 

 

BAGO SILA MAG PRODUCE, ISIPIN NILA KUNG KAYA BA NILA ANG MGA RESPONSIBILITIES THAT GO WITH IT.... 

THERE ARE OTHER NATURAL WAYS TO LIMIT THEIR CHILDREN....IF THEY ONLY WANT TO..

 

BUT 

I AM VERY GLAD THAT MY PARENTS GAVE US A CHANCE TO BE BORN AND SEE THE WORLD!

Nicolette, you have said it beautifully.

The RCC respects individuality or in clearer terms the individual conscience. It is not ruled by the sword but by the word of the Lord.

 

Ayayay, sa wakas mayroon din magandang nasabi si Makul…ay sorry si Nicolette. Ayos!!

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Relax lang

Nicolette:

 

 BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD...AND I DON' THINK NA PWEDE YUNG BAGUHIN TULAD NG CONSTITUTION...AT IAKMA SA PANAHON...

IT'S NOT ONLY THE CATHOLICS.. BECAUSE WE HAVE NEIGHBORS WHO BELONG TO DIFFERENT RELIGIONS LIKE JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, INC, MGA CHRISTIANS AND OTHER SECT NA MARAMI RING MGA ANAK... 

WHAT ABOUT THE MUSLIMS...THEY HAVE KORAN AT SILA PWEDENG MAG ASAWA NG KAHIT ILAN....AT MAG ANAK NG KAHIT GAANO KARAMI....

 

WHY FOCUS ON CBCP?

 

IN MY OPINION, RELIGION DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH  THE GROWTH OF POPULATION..

 

IT'S THE COUPLE... 

 

BAGO SILA MAG PRODUCE, ISIPIN NILA KUNG KAYA BA NILA ANG MGA RESPONSIBILITIES THAT GO WITH IT.... 

THERE ARE OTHER NATURAL WAYS TO LIMIT THEIR CHILDREN....IF THEY ONLY WANT TO..

 

BUT 

I AM VERY GLAD THAT MY PARENTS GAVE US A CHANCE TO BE BORN AND SEE THE WORLD!

unfortunately,many couples wanted to have s_e_x for the sole reason na mahal nila isat isa without the intention of having another mouth to feed. If CBCP cannot be blamed for overpopulation, then they are to be blame for preventing the measures that will stop overpopulation. AYan nirepharase ko na,siguro naman tama na.As fas as natural ways, they are PRIMITIVE, they are as primitive as the old practice na pag may sakit ka, bubutasan yung bungo mo because the church once believes that sickness is caused by evil spirits and that by drilling a hole in your skull, lalabas ang evil spirit at gagaling ka na. That is how primitive church solutions are. By the way, if "souls" are predetermine bu God, don't you think na di man mag union ang parents natin, since "pre determine" ang pagdidistribute ni God ng kaluluwa ay bababa at bababa rin tayo sa earth in a different lifetime or with different parents? Think about it??? That is a scientific approach to a moral church dillema. As I said, kaya nga ayaw rin ng church ng cloning because it might show na hindi predetermine ang kaluluwa,or worse,people will start to think na organism lang talaga tayo or even deny the existence of soul,na kailangang mabuo ka bago ka maging human or otherwise, organism lang tayo or sperm cell lang tayo just like the numerous na mamamatay para lang makabuo ng 1 human being sa mating> Maybe the church is so paranoid,they do not even logically comprehend na contraceptive does not kill life but just prevents it.I mean pag pumatay ka ng manok, pumatay ka ng manok, pag nakabasag ka ng itlog, it does not mean nakapatay ka. Kumbasa sa bumbilya, para mo lang sinra yung power outlet,di mo binasag yung bulb. Science is the way to a better life than primitive religious practices

The Catholic Church has long been part of the Philippines society since the Spanish colonial period. Back then, the demarcation line between the Church and the State is as thick as a tooth’s skin. That was ages ago but today it seems we have been reverted to a time when the Church brandishes the punishment of excommunication if you go against their bidding. And I find it all the more interesting seeing a Bishop denying communion from those who will advocate family planning and artificial contraceptives. They say this is anti-life and therefore should be fought against. They say that they have to this because someone who proposes this is a public sinner and therefore cannot be afforded with the Holy Body of Christ.

But I cannot see anything more anti-life than allowing people to propagate all they want, in following with the Church’s ‘go forth and multiply’ teaching, and leave these poor people to grovel and retch on the ground before they starve to death. I cannot see more anti-life than supporting someone who employs pogrom of opponents a policy just to cling on to office that was never hers. And I cannot fathom a more immoral thing to see than someone who cheats, steals and kills receive the Holy Bread.

Sometimes I get to wonder if the Church will lead me to Heaven or Perdition.

jacobus1982:

Nicolette:

 

 BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD...AND I DON' THINK NA PWEDE YUNG BAGUHIN TULAD NG CONSTITUTION...AT IAKMA SA PANAHON...

IT'S NOT ONLY THE CATHOLICS.. BECAUSE WE HAVE NEIGHBORS WHO BELONG TO DIFFERENT RELIGIONS LIKE JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, INC, MGA CHRISTIANS AND OTHER SECT NA MARAMI RING MGA ANAK... 

WHAT ABOUT THE MUSLIMS...THEY HAVE KORAN AT SILA PWEDENG MAG ASAWA NG KAHIT ILAN....AT MAG ANAK NG KAHIT GAANO KARAMI....

 

WHY FOCUS ON CBCP?

 

IN MY OPINION, RELIGION DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH  THE GROWTH OF POPULATION..

 

IT'S THE COUPLE... 

 

BAGO SILA MAG PRODUCE, ISIPIN NILA KUNG KAYA BA NILA ANG MGA RESPONSIBILITIES THAT GO WITH IT.... 

THERE ARE OTHER NATURAL WAYS TO LIMIT THEIR CHILDREN....IF THEY ONLY WANT TO..

 

BUT 

I AM VERY GLAD THAT MY PARENTS GAVE US A CHANCE TO BE BORN AND SEE THE WORLD!

unfortunately,many couples wanted to have s_e_x for the sole reason na mahal nila isat isa without the intention of having another mouth to feed. If CBCP cannot be blamed for overpopulation, then they are to be blame for preventing the measures that will stop overpopulation. AYan nirepharase ko na,siguro naman tama na.As fas as natural ways, they are PRIMITIVE, they are as primitive as the old practice na pag may sakit ka, bubutasan yung bungo mo because the church once believes that sickness is caused by evil spirits and that by drilling a hole in your skull, lalabas ang evil spirit at gagaling ka na. That is how primitive church solutions are. By the way, if "souls" are predetermine bu God, don't you think na di man mag union ang parents natin, since "pre determine" ang pagdidistribute ni God ng kaluluwa ay bababa at bababa rin tayo sa earth in a different lifetime or with different parents? Think about it??? That is a scientific approach to a moral church dillema. As I said, kaya nga ayaw rin ng church ng cloning because it might show na hindi predetermine ang kaluluwa,or worse,people will start to think na organism lang talaga tayo or even deny the existence of soul,na kailangang mabuo ka bago ka maging human or otherwise, organism lang tayo or sperm cell lang tayo just like the numerous na mamamatay para lang makabuo ng 1 human being sa mating> Maybe the church is so paranoid,they do not even logically comprehend na contraceptive does not kill life but just prevents it.I mean pag pumatay ka ng manok, pumatay ka ng manok, pag nakabasag ka ng itlog, it does not mean nakapatay ka. Kumbasa sa bumbilya, para mo lang sinra yung power outlet,di mo binasag yung bulb. Science is the way to a better life than primitive religious practices

 

KAHIT ANO PANG BIRTH CONTROL/CONTRACEPTIVES ANG ILAGAY MO SA MARKET PAG GUSTO NG COUPLE MAG ANAK NG MAG ANAK, WALANG SINUMAN AT ANUMAN ANG MAKAKAPIGIL SA KANILA...

 

DAHIL SILA ANG NAG DEDESISYON SA BUHAY NILA HINDI ANG CBCP OR ANG RELIGION NILA... 

 

 

 

  

 

Nicolette:

jacobus1982:

Nicolette:

 

 BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD...AND I DON' THINK NA PWEDE YUNG BAGUHIN TULAD NG CONSTITUTION...AT IAKMA SA PANAHON...

IT'S NOT ONLY THE CATHOLICS.. BECAUSE WE HAVE NEIGHBORS WHO BELONG TO DIFFERENT RELIGIONS LIKE JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, INC, MGA CHRISTIANS AND OTHER SECT NA MARAMI RING MGA ANAK... 

WHAT ABOUT THE MUSLIMS...THEY HAVE KORAN AT SILA PWEDENG MAG ASAWA NG KAHIT ILAN....AT MAG ANAK NG KAHIT GAANO KARAMI....

 

WHY FOCUS ON CBCP?

 

IN MY OPINION, RELIGION DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH  THE GROWTH OF POPULATION..

 

IT'S THE COUPLE... 

 

BAGO SILA MAG PRODUCE, ISIPIN NILA KUNG KAYA BA NILA ANG MGA RESPONSIBILITIES THAT GO WITH IT.... 

THERE ARE OTHER NATURAL WAYS TO LIMIT THEIR CHILDREN....IF THEY ONLY WANT TO..

 

BUT 

I AM VERY GLAD THAT MY PARENTS GAVE US A CHANCE TO BE BORN AND SEE THE WORLD!

unfortunately,many couples wanted to have s_e_x for the sole reason na mahal nila isat isa without the intention of having another mouth to feed. If CBCP cannot be blamed for overpopulation, then they are to be blame for preventing the measures that will stop overpopulation. AYan nirepharase ko na,siguro naman tama na.As fas as natural ways, they are PRIMITIVE, they are as primitive as the old practice na pag may sakit ka, bubutasan yung bungo mo because the church once believes that sickness is caused by evil spirits and that by drilling a hole in your skull, lalabas ang evil spirit at gagaling ka na. That is how primitive church solutions are. By the way, if "souls" are predetermine bu God, don't you think na di man mag union ang parents natin, since "pre determine" ang pagdidistribute ni God ng kaluluwa ay bababa at bababa rin tayo sa earth in a different lifetime or with different parents? Think about it??? That is a scientific approach to a moral church dillema. As I said, kaya nga ayaw rin ng church ng cloning because it might show na hindi predetermine ang kaluluwa,or worse,people will start to think na organism lang talaga tayo or even deny the existence of soul,na kailangang mabuo ka bago ka maging human or otherwise, organism lang tayo or sperm cell lang tayo just like the numerous na mamamatay para lang makabuo ng 1 human being sa mating> Maybe the church is so paranoid,they do not even logically comprehend na contraceptive does not kill life but just prevents it.I mean pag pumatay ka ng manok, pumatay ka ng manok, pag nakabasag ka ng itlog, it does not mean nakapatay ka. Kumbasa sa bumbilya, para mo lang sinra yung power outlet,di mo binasag yung bulb. Science is the way to a better life than primitive religious practices

 

KAHIT ANO PANG BIRTH CONTROL/CONTRACEPTIVES ANG ILAGAY MO SA MARKET PAG GUSTO NG COUPLE MAG ANAK NG MAG ANAK, WALANG SINUMAN AT ANUMAN ANG MAKAKAPIGIL SA KANILA...

 

DAHIL SILA ANG NAG DEDESISYON SA BUHAY NILA HINDI ANG CBCP OR ANG RELIGION NILA... 

ayun naman pala , kahit anong contraceptive ang ilagay natin sa market,pag gustong mag ka anak, mag aanak walang pipigil sa kanila eh di ilagay natin yung birth control sa market at hayaan natin syang iignore ng mga gustong mag anak at ayaw magpapigil at hayaan din natin na bumili ang ayaw ng magka anak at gustong gumamit ng walang pipigil sa kanila?? fairdeal????

 

  

 

GOD is Life. He is the sole giver of Life. Would you prevent the formation of Life? Can you not deny yourself against worldy pleasure, especially this ***, in order not to be guilty of preventing life? Why are you all becoming a slaves of your flesh? Why your spirit cannot control the desires of your flesh? My dear little brothers and sisters, you are inviting your destruction by the four elements. Would you like to suffer more from elemental tragedies? Is your urban fire not enough, your floods not enough, your typhoon not enough, your earthquake ot enough?

By being an slave of your desire for flesh and using artificial contraceptives to satisfy your desire, do you think you are worthy to receive the Holy Mystical Body of your KING!!! You are an abomination! Illegal *** Perform! Fornicating like animals! Preventing the formation of Life! You are entering the wrong path! I am telling you, famine and starvation is on doorstep of this country. Unless you return to your senses it will inundate all of you.

Save your spirit, do penance, discipline yourself! Do not point to each other and blame one another! You are all accountable for your earthly desires. Over population only shows that this country is low in morality.

akkiko:

GOD is Life. He is the sole giver of Life. Would you prevent the formation of Life? Can you not deny yourself against worldy pleasure, especially this ***, in order not to be guilty of preventing life? Why are you all becoming a slaves of your flesh? Why your spirit cannot control the desires of your flesh? My dear little brothers and sisters, you are inviting your destruction by the four elements. Would you like to suffer more from elemental tragedies? Is your urban fire not enough, your floods not enough, your typhoon not enough, your earthquake ot enough?

By being an slave of your desire for flesh and using artificial contraceptives to satisfy your desire, do you think you are worthy to receive the Holy Mystical Body of your KING!!! You are an abomination! Illegal *** Perform! Fornicating like animals! Preventing the formation of Life! You are entering the wrong path! I am telling you, famine and starvation is on doorstep of this country. Unless you return to your senses it will inundate all of you.

Save your spirit, do penance, discipline yourself! Do not point to each other and blame one another! You are all accountable for your earthly desires. Over population only shows that this country is low in morality.

Yes, a lot of people don’t realize that God created nature and it is through nature that He sends us His warnings, i.e.; floods, earthquakes, typhoons, tsunamis, volcanic eruptions etc…the earth is already a naturally dangerous place to live in and yet mankind or humankind still creates wars..

 

Over population only shows that this country is low in morality.

 

This statement of yours seems to prove the contrary..It shows that the majority still adheres to the church’s ruling on artificial birth control, that’s why the population boom.

 

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A journey always starts with the first step.

I think it's now time that people should open their eyes. The Philippines is overpopulated. Our nation is so behind progress compared to other Asian countries. Why is it the Family Planning center were closed, why is it that only rich family can afford to buy pills. Whe don't we have *** education. It's so taboo yet the motels are everywhere and now it's walk in. It's so contradictory, I was shocked when I went home last year, so many kids. So many unwed mothers and most of all teenage mothers. Friends of my age (44) some are now grandmothers.....Kids not finishing their studies, where are they future. Especially these kids doen't come from rich family.

Families with 5 or 6 children who can't cope up, hunger, no school. Is the church helping these families? Is it a BIG SIN to give a better life to the younger generation? Families are spread out, because of poverty, kids left without their mom most of the time. I don't think that GOD will punish everyone who controls birth. Which one is worst, Birth control or Abortion? In doing this ban for artificial contraception the church itself is pushing these desperate women to commit crime.

 

akkiko:

GOD is Life. He is the sole giver of Life. Would you prevent the formation of Life? Can you not deny yourself against worldy pleasure, especially this ***, in order not to be guilty of preventing life? Why are you all becoming a slaves of your flesh? Why your spirit cannot control the desires of your flesh? My dear little brothers and sisters, you are inviting your destruction by the four elements. Would you like to suffer more from elemental tragedies? Is your urban fire not enough, your floods not enough, your typhoon not enough, your earthquake ot enough?

By being an slave of your desire for flesh and using artificial contraceptives to satisfy your desire, do you think you are worthy to receive the Holy Mystical Body of your KING!!! You are an abomination! Illegal *** Perform! Fornicating like animals! Preventing the formation of Life! You are entering the wrong path! I am telling you, famine and starvation is on doorstep of this country. Unless you return to your senses it will inundate all of you.

Save your spirit, do penance, discipline yourself! Do not point to each other and blame one another! You are all accountable for your earthly desires. Over population only shows that this country is low in morality.

I misses the practical sense of what you just posted. This is the perfect reason why science is more practical than religion. Because when the people are hungry, science prefers solutions than wait for divine intervention. By the way, are you a nun???I guess your post just made it obvious why religious persons should not interfere in debate that has anything to do with science. PRIMITIVE, how PRIMITIVE. I suppuse I should now go say 100 Our father and 100 Hail Marys and 250 Glory Bes. Maybe if I pray the rosary day in day out, our economy will be the same as US in the next few years.

Im just in favor of at least condoms,but yung pagpapalaglag ng nabuo na, I am not in favor of that. By the way, tama si Lazalluv, ano kaya lesser evil,"idelay" ang pagpapanganak ng 1 tao by birth control, (since kung pre determine ang kaluluwa, ipapanganak rin naman sila in a different lifetime) o ipanganak sila kahit di kayang sustentuhan para lumaking kriminal at magnanakaw???

Absolutely! They should be banned from receiving Holy Communion. Why? Because:

1. The use of artificial contraceptives, according to the infallible teaching of the Church's Magisterium, is intrinsically evil meaning it is evil in and of itself. Thus it is gravely contrary to the laws of nature, of God and of His Church.

2. To advocate and legislate laws allowing the use of artificial contraceptives means these legislators are participating and cooperating in committng the sin of contraception. Please read the following excerpts from pastoral letter written by an American Bishop way back in 1991 (the late Bishop GlennonP. Flavin from the Diocese of Lincoln. Nebraska.) It is clear. concise and forceful in its teaching of Catholic Doctrine:

http://ccli.org/nfp/morality/b-flavin.php

"The ban on contraception is not a disciplinary law of the Church, like abstinence of Friday, which the Church can enact and which the Church can dispense for good reasons. Rather, it is a divine law which the Church cannot change any more than it can change the law of God forbidding murder. Contraception is wrong, not because the Church says it is wrong (it was wrong before Christ established the Church); it is wrong because God Himself, through the revelation of His Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ, has declared it to be wrong. Because contraception is intrinsically evil, it may never be practiced for any reason, no matter how good and urgent. A good end never justifies the use of an evil means.

Catholic physicians and others who prescribe contraceptives or recommend their use are cooperators with those who use them. [Such cooperation is gravely sinful. The same is true for physicians who advise contraceptive sterilization, or perform this procedure or refer a person to another physician for this purpose. In doing so they, too, commit grave sin.

It should be obvious that Catholics who practice birth control and those who cooperate with them in their immoral actions may not receive Holy Communion without committing sacrilege.Only the worthy reception of the Sacrament of Penance, which requires genuine sorrow for sin and the sincere intention to discontinue the sinful practice, will bring God's forgiveness, restore grace to the soul and make one worthy to receive Our Lord in Holy Communion."

3. Birth control pills can act as abortifacients. 

http://www.krohse.com/birthcontrol/20040120-10600.html 

 "These chemical birth control methods use three methods to prevent pregnancy. First, they do inhibit ovulation. However, they do not do so consistently. For instance, look at the quote from the Micronor minipills here. These pills "prevent conception by suppressing ovulation in approximately half of users" (emphasis added).

  When these contraceptives fail to prevent ovulation, their second mechanism is thickened cervical mucus. This makes it more difficult for sperm to enter the fallopian tubes and reach the egg. However, sperm do sometimes reach the egg. If birth control always prevented fertilization, no one would get pregnant while on birth control. However, a small percentage of women do become pregnant while properly using any chemical contraceptive.  

  Scientific studies show that a thin, depleted endometrium can often prevent implantation. In fact, birth control manufacturers list this mechanism on every physician information sheet and most patient information sheets. When the new human being is prevented from implanting and starves to death, an ABORTION has taken place. The producers of these drugs do not present this information as speculation—they present it as fact."

 Thus we see that birth control pills do cause abortions without the user ever knowing it.

 

again, simple solution...separation of church and state....if the church teaches about forgiveness...then we should have not have prisons...

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