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Last post 05-12-2008, 5:01 PM by Lazzaluv. 67 replies.
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  •  05-02-2008, 11:35 AM 2739004 in reply to 2738887

    Re: why Some people do something rather than just criticize and point fingers.

     

     

    HERE'S BY THE WAY AN EXAMPLE of NOBLE WAYs, SOME PINOYS TRYING TO INVEST/GIVEBACK TO OUR COUNTRY..

     IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE BIG, WITH THIS YOU SECURE YOUR RETIREMENT BE WITH YOUR FAMILY  AND SOMEHOW GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY THROUGH EMPLOYMENT!

     THAT IS OF COURSE IF YOU DO NOT DECIDE TO IMMIGRATE LIKE MOST PINOY DO! LOL

    THESE ARE JUST ONE OF THE MANY THINGS WE CAN DO TO HELP OUR MOTHERLAND.. THERE ARE 11 MILLION OF US OUT HERE, IMAGINE EVEN HALF OF IT DOING SOMETHING LIKE THESE..!!.  

        

    Ang pagnenegosyo ay isang magandang oportunidad para sa ating naghahangad ng magandang buhay

    Ni PAT A. STO. TOMAS

    Mayroon tayong tatlong e-mail na natanggap tungkol naman sa kagustuhan ng ating mga OFWs na magpundar ng negosyo dito sa atin bilang paghahanda sa pagre-retiro o di kaya ay paglisan sa kanilang overseas job para mamalagi na rito at makapiling ang kani-kanilang mga mahal sa buhay.

    Katulad nitong aking kababayan sa Marinduque na si Tony at kasalukuyang nagtatrabaho sa Saudi. Ayon kay Tony siya ay may 30 taon nang nagtatrabaho sa Saudi at balak na niyang magretiro at bumalik dito sa Pilipinas. Bilang paghahanda, siya ay nagpundar ng isang backyard hog-raising project katulong ang kanyang mga kapatid na dati ring mga OFWs. Nagpatayo rin sila ng isang meat processing plant upang ang mga baboy ay kanilang ma-process at maging tocino, tapa, longganisa at hotdogs.

    Upang mapanatili ang supply ng baboy, hinikayat ni Tony ang kanyang kapwa OFWs at ilang pang interesadong probinsya na magpatayo ng kooperatiba ng mga hog-raisers. Subalit sila ay nahihirapang imintene ang kanilang backyard hog-raising dahil sa kamahalan ng commercial feeds. Kaya ninais nilang magtayo ng isang feed mill bilang suporta sa mga miyembro ng kooperatiba at ng sa gayon ay muling sisigla ang paghahayupan sa probinsya. Si Tony ay humihingi ng payo kung papaano sila makakapagtatag ng isang maliit na feed mill.

    Si Omar naman na nasa Abha, Saudi Arabia ay humihingi ng payo kung papaano niya mapatapos ang inumpisahang gusali para sa kanyang pangarap na negosyong restaurant at pension house sa Iloilo. Ayon kay Omar, siya ay gumawa pa ng isang feasibility study bago niya inumpisahan ang pagpapatayo ng building na may budget na P3 million, subalit dahil sa kamahalan ng construction materials naubos na ang kanyang savings at di pa tapos ang gusali. Siya din ay humihingi ng payo kung paano maisakatuparan ang kanyang panaginip.

    Ayon naman kay Ginoong R. de Leon na kasalukuyang ring nasa Saudi Arabia, gusto na rin niyang umuwi at mamalagi na dito sa Pilipinas, matapos ang 17 taong pamamasukan doon. Nais niyang magtayo ng isang palay buying station doon sa kanyang probinsya sa Isabela at balak niyang umutang ng P1 million para dito. Nagtatanong siya kung saan pwedeng makakautang na mababa lang ang interest at mabilis ang process dahil sa mayroon naman siyang pang-collateral.

    Family assistance program

    Ako’y natutuwang malaman na mayroon tayong mga OFWs na interesadong magnegosyo at ito ay kanilang pinaghahandaan. Maski noon pa man ako’y nasa POEA ng dekada otsenta at nang ako ay naging Kalihim ng Paggawa at Empleyo, itong idea na pagnenegosyo ng ating mga OFWs ay akin ng iminumungkahi. Alam naman natin na ang overseas employment ay isang pansamantalang oportunidad lamang at nararapat lang na ito ay ating samantalahin upang makaipon ng kaunting pera na siyang magagamit na puhunan sa ating minimithing negosyo.

    Subalit dahil na rin sa malaking pagkakagastusan ng pamilya lalo na ang mahalagang pag-aaral ng mga anak, marami sa ating mga OFWs ang hindi nagkakaroon ng malaking ipon upang magamit na kapital sa isang negosyo. Kailangan pa rin nila ang tulong financial pati na mga pagpapayo para makapagtatag ng isang negosyo.

    Dahil dito, minarapat natin sa OWWA na magkaroon ng programang nakalaan para dito, at ito ay ang tinatawag na Family Welfare and Assistance Program. Sa ilalim ng programang ito, ang OFW ay maaring makahiram ng halaga na kailangan sa pagtayo ng binabalak na negosyo.

    Loans

    Ang OWWA ay may dalawang uri ng loan programs na maaaring pakinabangan ng ating mga OFWs. Ito ay ang OWWA-NLSF Livelihood Development Programs for OFWs at ang OFW Groceria Project. Dito sa OWWA-NLSF Livelihood Development Program ang OFW ay maaaring makahiram ng working capital para sa negosyong katulad ng trading (general merchandise and buy and sell), services (repair shops, restaurants, parlors, etc.) manufacturing (meat/fruits processing, shoes, etc.) at agri-business (tilapia culture, piggery, poultry, etc). Ang loan na makukuha ay pweding magamit bilang working capital (purchase of merchandise goods or raw materials,) business assets acquisitions (purchase of machineries /equipment) at business site construction or improvement.

    Sa aking sapantaha, ang negosyong naiisip ng ating tatlong OFW ay nakapailalim dito. Kaya aking ipinapayo sa tatlo na sila ay kaagad na pumunta sa pinakamalapit na opisina ng OWWA at mag-inquire kung papaano ma-avail ang programang ito. Ang alam ko makukuha din sa OWWA Web site.

    Para naman sa kaalaman ng ilan pang sumusubaybay sa kolum na ito, ang OWWA ay mayroon ding OFW Groceria Project. Ito naman ay isang interest-free loan na ibinibigay hindi sa isang OFW kundi sa Overseas Family Circle o sa samahan ng mga pamilya ng OFWs sa isang lugar. Ang Family Circle ay pwedeng makakuha ng merchandise goods o groceria na nagkakahalaga ng P50,000 na kanilang maipagbibili sa mga miyembro sa medyo mababang halaga.

    Ang tatlo nating OFWs ay maari ring lumapit sa Development Bank of the Philippine (DBP) para sa kanilang capital requirements. And DBP ay mayroon ding livelihood loan Program sa OFWs. Ito ay para sa mga proyektong katulad ng trading, manufacturing, processing services at iba pa. Ang loan ay magagamit para sa working capital, pagbili ng mga machineries o equipment, franchise fees at iba pang pagkakagastusan bilang suporta sa negosyong itatatag o natatag na.

    Mayroon ding partnership and DBP sa Smart Communications na nagbibigay oportunidad sa mga OFWs na magtayo ng Smart Bro at Smart Load Business at internet shop. Kaya ang sino mang OFW na interesado ay maaring mag-inquire sa DBP Remittance Center sa DBP head office sa Makati o dili kaya sa DBP branch office malapit sa inyong lugar.

    Katulad ni Tony, Omar at Ginoong de Leon, ito na marahil ang panahon na ang ating mga OFWs o ang kanilang mga kabiyak na may hilig sa pagnenegosyo ay pag-isipan ito at tingnan kung ang pagnenegosyo ay siyang nararapat na paghahanda sa kinabukasan. Ang pagtatrabaho sa abroad ay hindi panghabang panahon. Kaya nararapat lamang na ito ay paghandaan.

    Ang pagnenegosyo ay isang magandang oportunidad para sa ating naghahangad ng magandang buhay. Ang payo ko lamang ay huwag na nating gayahin ang mga negosyo ng ating mga kapit-bahay at makipag kompetensya pa sa kanila, lalo na kung ang ating hinahangad na mga kliyente ay limitado lamang at siya ding kliyente ng ating kapit-bahay. Maaaring ito ang maging dahilan ng ating pagkalugi kasama na rin ng ating mga kapit-bahay na nauna na sa negosyong ito.

    Ang e-mail address ni Ms. Sto. Tomas ay stotomaspat@gmail.com.


     

  •  05-02-2008, 1:19 PM 2739233 in reply to 2738283

    Re: why Some people do something rather than just criticize and point fingers.

    Ronnie1976:
    Lazzaluv:
    Ronnie1976:
    Lazzaluv:

    The large number of OFW is actually a testimony to the high standard of our educational system. We produce brains and it has become our number one export. This is something we can be proud of.

    People see things on a different perspective..

         Is it really the high standard of Education the real reason why we filipino's are going out of our country? living all our love ones, our friends, our wife and children, working a hundred miles away from our family, never knowing what is going on with them or who is protecting them?, or are they safe?, are they eating properly.Are we going to be proud of these dilemma that almost a high percentage of Pilipino Family are ending up into a broken family, because of these long distance family life. Is these what we Pilipino wants and are we really have to be proud of it?

      Do we really have to be proud, that every skills we learned, and all the stuff that we have acquired we used it for the betterment of another country, another race, and another culture while our own country, our own race, are being destroyed. Filipina women took care of another child on another country, while her child is having a hardtime coping the hardship in our country for the loss of a mother and a father.

     Do we really have to accept all these and be proud of it, because of the innefficiency of the government to transform and create jobs, in our country in order to keep family together and friends and be able to serve and apply his own skills toward the betterment of our own race, our own People, and for our own Country.

    AM I GONNA BE PROUD OF MYSELF, THAT MY GOVERNMENT HAS TURNED HIS PEOPLE INTO A LIVESTOCK AND BECOME LIKE A PRODUCT FOR EXPORT AND FEELING NO DIFFERENT FOR JUST BEING A CATTLE OR A COW FOR EXPORT.  I feel so sad about it but i know others seem to be so glad and proud of it..[:'(] [:'(] [:'(]

    I am amazed at how my message has been misconstrued.  You have pointed out the reasons why our kabayans have to leave to seek a brighter future and I agree with that. Seeking greener pastures is a human instinct but without proper qualifications and skills it will be a distant dream.

    Why do you think we are able to provide workers for other countries? It is because they acknowledge the fact that we Filipinos are a cultured and well educated people. And we should hold our heads up high and not arrive at a foreign land with our heads bowed. It is not our fault that we have to seek our future away from home.

    Look ahead into the future; visualize the benefits our OFWs will do for our future generations who will someday lead our country with the sacrifices of their forbearers embedded in their minds to serve as a guide for their conscience which will lead them to make proper and better decisions for our country.

    Mabuhay ang Filipino saan man kayo nanduroon!

     

    I did not imply that you are wrong my friend, that is the reason why i said there are many ways of looking at it..Try not to be mistaken that truly education plays important part why we are able to compete with other nation outside our country. But it is not educaton alone that puts the Pilipino abroad but its the perseverance to stay alive, to survive the hardship that we are all into. Not all Pilipino are engineers and doctors but some of them dont even have the education but only the guts to go out of the country and find a better living. Even in a war stricken country, you will find Filipinos trying to make ends meet, where no other people would not dare to work, but Pilipino's will risk even his life just to have a dollar send to his family. Kapit sa patalim ito ang nagiging ugali ng mga Pilipino, he dont care if other nation of similar education are being paid more, but we just know its better than what we are going to earned back home and we are already happy about it. Ang dami sa ating mga Pilipina ang minamaltrato, naloloko, ginagahasa at na-aabuso sa labas ng ating bansa, ang dami sa ating mga Pilipino ay nagtatago dahil sa kawalan ng dokumento para lang manatili sa ibang bansa at maka pagpadala ng dolyar at mabuhay ang mga natitirang mahal sa buhay doon sa ating bansa. Minsan ang dignidad at pagkatao ay nasisira upang mabuhay lamang. Merong nagiging matagumpay at meron ding nasasawi, Makikita mo ang libo-libong Pilipino ang uma-alis ngunit hindi mo nakikita ang marami na bumabalik na nasa kahon. Eto ang katotohanan at ganito ba ang ginusto ng mga Pilipino para sa kanilang buhay.

    Ang sabihin na pinagmamalaki ko ito ay magbibigay ng hudyat sa ating pamahalaan na ito ang tama para sa atng mga mamamayan, at dahil ang malaking remittances na ating pinadadala ay pabor sa kanila ay baka hindi na nila gawan ng lunas at imbes ay itaguyod pa nila ang ganitong sistema ng buhay, at ang pamahalaang ito ay maging isa ng ganap na recruiter upang maipadala ang bawat mamamayan at tayo ay maging isa na lamang export product ng ating bansa, lalo nilang patayin ang kabuhayan sa ating bansa upang ang lahat ay mag si likas patungo sa ibang bayan, imbes na pag isipan ang ika tataas ng kalidad ng ating mamamayan ay lalo nilang pa-tatagin ang pagiging alipin natin, tulad ng ginawang programa na Super Maid ni Gloria. gusto kong makarating sa ating pamahalaan ay ang dahilan ay kahirapan at walang opportunidad sa ating bansa, kaya tayong lahat lumilikas, gawan nila ng paraan ito, at napaka raming Pilipino, pamilya, kaibigan o ka-anak ang nagkakawatak-watak at nasisira sa ganitong klaseng buhay. Malaki ang magagawa ng ating pamahalaan upang mabago ito, maiwasan ang paglikas, ang brain drain at itaguyod ang kabuhayan ng ating mamamayan, To be Free from slavery due to Poverty. Sad Sad Sad

    I guess we are looking at the OFW situation from a different light, my friend. I understand the points that you mentioned about the hardships some of them have gone through. These are exactly the sacrifices that one has to endure because of our country’s inability to provide them with jobs that will keep them at home. “ Pag may tiaga may nilaga”

    I was looking at the positive effects OFWs have done. Aside from remittances we now have manufacturers who are doing brisk export business because the OFWs have created a market for their products, i.e.; Rufina Patis, our Bagoong...etc. whereas before they only relied on the domestic market.Some have now been able to open up their own Sari-Sari store and Karinderias.

    From the other side, some OFWs have introduced our locally made products by opening up Companies that sell items such as furniture, hats, marble, etc. and even some act as trade brokers.

    These are just some of the positive examples that don’t make the news but is actually thriving.

     

    Positive thinking helps ease the burden, my friend.

     


    A journey always starts with the first step.
  •  05-02-2008, 10:14 PM 2740193 in reply to 2739233

    Re: why Some people do something rather than just criticize and point fingers.

    Lazzaluv:
    Ronnie1976:
    Lazzaluv:
    Ronnie1976:
    Lazzaluv:

    The large number of OFW is actually a testimony to the high standard of our educational system. We produce brains and it has become our number one export. This is something we can be proud of.

    People see things on a different perspective..

         Is it really the high standard of Education the real reason why we filipino's are going out of our country? living all our love ones, our friends, our wife and children, working a hundred miles away from our family, never knowing what is going on with them or who is protecting them?, or are they safe?, are they eating properly.Are we going to be proud of these dilemma that almost a high percentage of Pilipino Family are ending up into a broken family, because of these long distance family life. Is these what we Pilipino wants and are we really have to be proud of it?

      Do we really have to be proud, that every skills we learned, and all the stuff that we have acquired we used it for the betterment of another country, another race, and another culture while our own country, our own race, are being destroyed. Filipina women took care of another child on another country, while her child is having a hardtime coping the hardship in our country for the loss of a mother and a father.

     Do we really have to accept all these and be proud of it, because of the innefficiency of the government to transform and create jobs, in our country in order to keep family together and friends and be able to serve and apply his own skills toward the betterment of our own race, our own People, and for our own Country.

    AM I GONNA BE PROUD OF MYSELF, THAT MY GOVERNMENT HAS TURNED HIS PEOPLE INTO A LIVESTOCK AND BECOME LIKE A PRODUCT FOR EXPORT AND FEELING NO DIFFERENT FOR JUST BEING A CATTLE OR A COW FOR EXPORT.  I feel so sad about it but i know others seem to be so glad and proud of it..[:'(] [:'(] [:'(]

    I am amazed at how my message has been misconstrued.  You have pointed out the reasons why our kabayans have to leave to seek a brighter future and I agree with that. Seeking greener pastures is a human instinct but without proper qualifications and skills it will be a distant dream.

    Why do you think we are able to provide workers for other countries? It is because they acknowledge the fact that we Filipinos are a cultured and well educated people. And we should hold our heads up high and not arrive at a foreign land with our heads bowed. It is not our fault that we have to seek our future away from home.

    Look ahead into the future; visualize the benefits our OFWs will do for our future generations who will someday lead our country with the sacrifices of their forbearers embedded in their minds to serve as a guide for their conscience which will lead them to make proper and better decisions for our country.

    Mabuhay ang Filipino saan man kayo nanduroon!

     

    I did not imply that you are wrong my friend, that is the reason why i said there are many ways of looking at it..Try not to be mistaken that truly education plays important part why we are able to compete with other nation outside our country. But it is not educaton alone that puts the Pilipino abroad but its the perseverance to stay alive, to survive the hardship that we are all into. Not all Pilipino are engineers and doctors but some of them dont even have the education but only the guts to go out of the country and find a better living. Even in a war stricken country, you will find Filipinos trying to make ends meet, where no other people would not dare to work, but Pilipino's will risk even his life just to have a dollar send to his family. Kapit sa patalim ito ang nagiging ugali ng mga Pilipino, he dont care if other nation of similar education are being paid more, but we just know its better than what we are going to earned back home and we are already happy about it. Ang dami sa ating mga Pilipina ang minamaltrato, naloloko, ginagahasa at na-aabuso sa labas ng ating bansa, ang dami sa ating mga Pilipino ay nagtatago dahil sa kawalan ng dokumento para lang manatili sa ibang bansa at maka pagpadala ng dolyar at mabuhay ang mga natitirang mahal sa buhay doon sa ating bansa. Minsan ang dignidad at pagkatao ay nasisira upang mabuhay lamang. Merong nagiging matagumpay at meron ding nasasawi, Makikita mo ang libo-libong Pilipino ang uma-alis ngunit hindi mo nakikita ang marami na bumabalik na nasa kahon. Eto ang katotohanan at ganito ba ang ginusto ng mga Pilipino para sa kanilang buhay.

    Ang sabihin na pinagmamalaki ko ito ay magbibigay ng hudyat sa ating pamahalaan na ito ang tama para sa atng mga mamamayan, at dahil ang malaking remittances na ating pinadadala ay pabor sa kanila ay baka hindi na nila gawan ng lunas at imbes ay itaguyod pa nila ang ganitong sistema ng buhay, at ang pamahalaang ito ay maging isa ng ganap na recruiter upang maipadala ang bawat mamamayan at tayo ay maging isa na lamang export product ng ating bansa, lalo nilang patayin ang kabuhayan sa ating bansa upang ang lahat ay mag si likas patungo sa ibang bayan, imbes na pag isipan ang ika tataas ng kalidad ng ating mamamayan ay lalo nilang pa-tatagin ang pagiging alipin natin, tulad ng ginawang programa na Super Maid ni Gloria. gusto kong makarating sa ating pamahalaan ay ang dahilan ay kahirapan at walang opportunidad sa ating bansa, kaya tayong lahat lumilikas, gawan nila ng paraan ito, at napaka raming Pilipino, pamilya, kaibigan o ka-anak ang nagkakawatak-watak at nasisira sa ganitong klaseng buhay. Malaki ang magagawa ng ating pamahalaan upang mabago ito, maiwasan ang paglikas, ang brain drain at itaguyod ang kabuhayan ng ating mamamayan, To be Free from slavery due to Poverty. Sad Sad Sad

    I guess we are looking at the OFW situation from a different light, my friend. I understand the points that you mentioned about the hardships some of them have gone through. These are exactly the sacrifices that one has to endure because of our country’s inability to provide them with jobs that will keep them at home. “ Pag may tiaga may nilaga”

    I was looking at the positive effects OFWs have done. Aside from remittances we now have manufacturers who are doing brisk export business because the OFWs have created a market for their products, i.e.; Rufina Patis, our Bagoong...etc. whereas before they only relied on the domestic market.Some have now been able to open up their own Sari-Sari store and Karinderias.

    From the other side, some OFWs have introduced our locally made products by opening up Companies that sell items such as furniture, hats, marble, etc. and even some act as trade brokers.

    These are just some of the positive examples that don’t make the news but is actually thriving.

    Positive thinking helps ease the burden, my friend.

     

    Tulad sa isang barkong lumalayag, kinakalawang na sa kalumaan, at pawang lulubog na, ang mga pasahero ay nangangamba na sa kani-kanilang buhay ay wala ng ibang magagawa kundi ang lumundag at makipag sapalaran doon sa karagatan na punong-puno ng panganib. ginawa ito ng isa, sinundan pa uli at  matapos ay sunod sunod na nagsi lundagan ang mga pasahero. Ang ilan sa kanila ay mapalad nakarating sa isla na mala paraiso, ang ilan sa kanila ay nakuha ng ibang barkong matibay na lumalayag, ngunit ang karamihan sa iba ay nasawi, nalunod at nakain ng mababangis na hayop ng karagatan.

    Ang tanong ko lang kaibigan, kung mayroon kang anak na natira doon sa barkong pinag mulan mo, ipapayo mo ba sa kanya na lumundag sa karagatan? sasabihin mo lang ba sa kanya ang magagandang pangyayari at matagumpay na kapalaran na naghihintay sa kanya tulad ng mga nangyari sa iba, at hindi mo babanggitin ang maraming tao na nalunod, namatay sa pakikipag sapalaran? at dahil sa naka luwag sa barkong ito ang pag talon ng mga pasahero, tama bang ito na ang maging patakaran ng kapitan ng barko na itulak ang lahat ng pasahero sa karagatan? Iwan ko na sayo ang kasagutan para sa ating mamamayan na mga pasahero at sa kapitan ng barko. VON VOYAGE...Zip it! Zip it! Zip it!

  •  05-02-2008, 11:08 PM 2740234 in reply to 2740193

    Re: why Some people do something rather than just criticize and point fingers.

    Ronnie1976:
    Lazzaluv:
    Ronnie1976:
    Lazzaluv:
    Ronnie1976:
    Lazzaluv:

    The large number of OFW is actually a testimony to the high standard of our educational system. We produce brains and it has become our number one export. This is something we can be proud of.

    People see things on a different perspective..

         Is it really the high standard of Education the real reason why we filipino's are going out of our country? living all our love ones, our friends, our wife and children, working a hundred miles away from our family, never knowing what is going on with them or who is protecting them?, or are they safe?, are they eating properly.Are we going to be proud of these dilemma that almost a high percentage of Pilipino Family are ending up into a broken family, because of these long distance family life. Is these what we Pilipino wants and are we really have to be proud of it?

      Do we really have to be proud, that every skills we learned, and all the stuff that we have acquired we used it for the betterment of another country, another race, and another culture while our own country, our own race, are being destroyed. Filipina women took care of another child on another country, while her child is having a hardtime coping the hardship in our country for the loss of a mother and a father.

     Do we really have to accept all these and be proud of it, because of the innefficiency of the government to transform and create jobs, in our country in order to keep family together and friends and be able to serve and apply his own skills toward the betterment of our own race, our own People, and for our own Country.

    AM I GONNA BE PROUD OF MYSELF, THAT MY GOVERNMENT HAS TURNED HIS PEOPLE INTO A LIVESTOCK AND BECOME LIKE A PRODUCT FOR EXPORT AND FEELING NO DIFFERENT FOR JUST BEING A CATTLE OR A COW FOR EXPORT.  I feel so sad about it but i know others seem to be so glad and proud of it..[:'(] [:'(] [:'(]

    I am amazed at how my message has been misconstrued.  You have pointed out the reasons why our kabayans have to leave to seek a brighter future and I agree with that. Seeking greener pastures is a human instinct but without proper qualifications and skills it will be a distant dream.

    Why do you think we are able to provide workers for other countries? It is because they acknowledge the fact that we Filipinos are a cultured and well educated people. And we should hold our heads up high and not arrive at a foreign land with our heads bowed. It is not our fault that we have to seek our future away from home.

    Look ahead into the future; visualize the benefits our OFWs will do for our future generations who will someday lead our country with the sacrifices of their forbearers embedded in their minds to serve as a guide for their conscience which will lead them to make proper and better decisions for our country.

    Mabuhay ang Filipino saan man kayo nanduroon!

     

    I did not imply that you are wrong my friend, that is the reason why i said there are many ways of looking at it..Try not to be mistaken that truly education plays important part why we are able to compete with other nation outside our country. But it is not educaton alone that puts the Pilipino abroad but its the perseverance to stay alive, to survive the hardship that we are all into. Not all Pilipino are engineers and doctors but some of them dont even have the education but only the guts to go out of the country and find a better living. Even in a war stricken country, you will find Filipinos trying to make ends meet, where no other people would not dare to work, but Pilipino's will risk even his life just to have a dollar send to his family. Kapit sa patalim ito ang nagiging ugali ng mga Pilipino, he dont care if other nation of similar education are being paid more, but we just know its better than what we are going to earned back home and we are already happy about it. Ang dami sa ating mga Pilipina ang minamaltrato, naloloko, ginagahasa at na-aabuso sa labas ng ating bansa, ang dami sa ating mga Pilipino ay nagtatago dahil sa kawalan ng dokumento para lang manatili sa ibang bansa at maka pagpadala ng dolyar at mabuhay ang mga natitirang mahal sa buhay doon sa ating bansa. Minsan ang dignidad at pagkatao ay nasisira upang mabuhay lamang. Merong nagiging matagumpay at meron ding nasasawi, Makikita mo ang libo-libong Pilipino ang uma-alis ngunit hindi mo nakikita ang marami na bumabalik na nasa kahon. Eto ang katotohanan at ganito ba ang ginusto ng mga Pilipino para sa kanilang buhay.

    Ang sabihin na pinagmamalaki ko ito ay magbibigay ng hudyat sa ating pamahalaan na ito ang tama para sa atng mga mamamayan, at dahil ang malaking remittances na ating pinadadala ay pabor sa kanila ay baka hindi na nila gawan ng lunas at imbes ay itaguyod pa nila ang ganitong sistema ng buhay, at ang pamahalaang ito ay maging isa ng ganap na recruiter upang maipadala ang bawat mamamayan at tayo ay maging isa na lamang export product ng ating bansa, lalo nilang patayin ang kabuhayan sa ating bansa upang ang lahat ay mag si likas patungo sa ibang bayan, imbes na pag isipan ang ika tataas ng kalidad ng ating mamamayan ay lalo nilang pa-tatagin ang pagiging alipin natin, tulad ng ginawang programa na Super Maid ni Gloria. gusto kong makarating sa ating pamahalaan ay ang dahilan ay kahirapan at walang opportunidad sa ating bansa, kaya tayong lahat lumilikas, gawan nila ng paraan ito, at napaka raming Pilipino, pamilya, kaibigan o ka-anak ang nagkakawatak-watak at nasisira sa ganitong klaseng buhay. Malaki ang magagawa ng ating pamahalaan upang mabago ito, maiwasan ang paglikas, ang brain drain at itaguyod ang kabuhayan ng ating mamamayan, To be Free from slavery due to Poverty. Sad Sad Sad

    I guess we are looking at the OFW situation from a different light, my friend. I understand the points that you mentioned about the hardships some of them have gone through. These are exactly the sacrifices that one has to endure because of our country’s inability to provide them with jobs that will keep them at home. “ Pag may tiaga may nilaga”

    I was looking at the positive effects OFWs have done. Aside from remittances we now have manufacturers who are doing brisk export business because the OFWs have created a market for their products, i.e.; Rufina Patis, our Bagoong...etc. whereas before they only relied on the domestic market.Some have now been able to open up their own Sari-Sari store and Karinderias.

    From the other side, some OFWs have introduced our locally made products by opening up Companies that sell items such as furniture, hats, marble, etc. and even some act as trade brokers.

    These are just some of the positive examples that don’t make the news but is actually thriving.

    Positive thinking helps ease the burden, my friend.

     

    Tulad sa isang barkong lumalayag, kinakalawang na sa kalumaan, at pawang lulubog na, ang mga pasahero ay nangangamba na sa kani-kanilang buhay ay wala ng ibang magagawa kundi ang lumundag at makipag sapalaran doon sa karagatan na punong-puno ng panganib. ginawa ito ng isa, sinundan pa uli at  matapos ay sunod sunod na nagsi lundagan ang mga pasahero. Ang ilan sa kanila ay mapalad nakarating sa isla na mala paraiso, ang ilan sa kanila ay nakuha ng ibang barkong matibay na lumalayag, ngunit ang karamihan sa iba ay nasawi, nalunod at nakain ng mababangis na hayop ng karagatan.

    Ang tanong ko lang kaibigan, kung mayroon kang anak na natira doon sa barkong pinag mulan mo, ipapayo mo ba sa kanya na lumundag sa karagatan? sasabihin mo lang ba sa kanya ang magagandang pangyayari at matagumpay na kapalaran na naghihintay sa kanya tulad ng mga nangyari sa iba, at hindi mo babanggitin ang maraming tao na nalunod, namatay sa pakikipag sapalaran? at dahil sa naka luwag sa barkong ito ang pag talon ng mga pasahero, tama bang ito na ang maging patakaran ng kapitan ng barko na itulak ang lahat ng pasahero sa karagatan? Iwan ko na sayo ang kasagutan para sa ating mamamayan na mga pasahero at sa kapitan ng barko. VON VOYAGE...Zip it! Zip it! Zip it!

    My friend, you obviously have a very fatalistic viewpoint.

    Sa tanong mo;

    kung mayroon kang anak na natira doon sa barkong pinag mulan mo, ipapayo mo ba sa kanya na lumundag sa karagatan?

     

    Kapag lumulubog na ang barko eh bakit hindi? Pero hindi ko siya palulundagin ng walang salba bida.

    In other words, kailangan handa ang isa para humarap sa mga pagsubok na maaring ma engkuwentro sa kalawakan ng mundong hinaharap. Proper skills and education.

     

    “Success is the sum of luck and preparation.”


    A journey always starts with the first step.
  •  05-03-2008, 12:29 AM 2740286 in reply to 2740234

    Re: why Some people do something rather than just criticize and point fingers.

    Not a fatalistic but a realistic view point and you answered it well, you have taken account of the danger and tried to lessen the risk by lookin at all the possible danger ahead and not just telling your son to jump without any safety precaution of what lies ahead. because you have weighed in the pros and cons..it is only absurd to say.."JUMP MY SON AND HEAVEN AWAITS YOU.." very possitive indeed but dangerous..Wink Wink Wink

  •  05-03-2008, 1:35 AM 2740327 in reply to 2738887

    Re: why Some people do something rather than just criticize and point fingers.

    wow, maids, secretaries, and nurses were put together in one group....ano bang tingin ng pinoy sa mga nurses dito sa US?
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  •  05-04-2008, 5:54 AM 2740656 in reply to 2740327

    Re: why Some people do something rather than just criticize and point fingers.

    no offence, what i meant by that, is a work group that mostly the citizens of that certain country tend not to do anymore (these are noble jobs by the way dont get me wrong thats why i  generalized it, for me  they are all equal and wont matter to the point im trying to make, should nurses be placed in a different group ...?)and these nations are developed/industrialized.

     and their #s are rising! (sad to say we are not going to be able to join them, maybe soon?) correct me if im wrong but is it not a barometer of a countrys economic progress... ? one way at least?

    if you'll try to look at the trend today, globally speaking, developed countrys are outsourcing less wanted jobs, yes its also because its way cheaper, but one of the major reason too, is nobody would really want it anyway..  like the u.s canada, japan, italy to name a few and even not very long south korea and singapore!

     again what i am trying to say is we can do better, i have relatives and friends who can really excel (science's ) if given the chance but are forced to go into nursing, pt etc.. so they can feed their family or themselves for that matter. if our government is spending more time and resources in our brilliant kababayans we could have been more than just mang juan sitting under the guava tree waiting for a job to fall.

     briefly speaking, make the most of our kabayans remitances, strengthen and support our economy, scientific and technological research, education social and environmental issues!

    yes i know.. i beginning to sound like a broken record.. what the heck REBOLUSYON nalang siguro!  

     

    mabuhay po tayo! 

     

    for the record my sister is a nurse here in the u.s and who knows if nots too late..  maybe me too in the near future.. :-( wanted to be in the computers but its hard to compete with indians who by the way spends 4-5yrs studying physics in high school, and one more thing im not smart enough:-( )

    good thing south koreans is a developed nation already otherwise they'll be a tough competition lol.

    as for now i'll stick to my blue collar job send my remitances and do what i can to help my country.

  •  05-04-2008, 8:37 AM 2740764 in reply to 2740656

    Re: why Some people do something rather than just criticize and point fingers.

    adrix7:

    no offence, what i meant by that, is a work group that mostly the citizens of that certain country tend not to do anymore (these are noble jobs by the way dont get me wrong thats why i  generalized it, for me  they are all equal and wont matter to the point im trying to make, should nurses be placed in a different group ...?)and these nations are developed/industrialized.

     and their #s are rising! (sad to say we are not going to be able to join them, maybe soon?) correct me if im wrong but is it not a barometer of a countrys economic progress... ? one way at least?

    if you'll try to look at the trend today, globally speaking, developed countrys are outsourcing less wanted jobs, yes its also because its way cheaper, but one of the major reason too, is nobody would really want it anyway..  like the u.s canada, japan, italy to name a few and even not very long south korea and singapore!

     again what i am trying to say is we can do better, i have relatives and friends who can really excell (science's ) if given the chance but are forced to go into nursing, pt etc.. so they can feed their family or themselves for that matter. if our government is spending more time and resources in our brilliant kababayans we could have been more than just mang juan sitting under the guava tree waiting for a job to fall.

     briefly speaking, make the most of our kabayans remitances, strengthen and support our economy, scientific and technological research, education social and environmental issues!

    yes i know.. i beginning to sound like a broken record.. what the heck REBOLUSYON nalang siguro!  

     

    mabuhay po tayo! 

     

    for the record my sister is a nurse here in the u.s and who knows if nots too late..  maybe me too in the near future.. :-( wanted to be in the computers but its hard to compete with indians who by the way spends 4-5yrs studying physics in high school, and one more thing im not smart enough:-( )

    good thing south koreans is a developed nation already otherwise they'll be a tough competition lol.

    as for now i'll stick to my blue collar job send my remitances and do what i can to help my country.

    again you used nursing as an example and it sounds like its not a science field and not a professional and more on just making the dough...hmmm....do yo even know the other opportunities of the nurses? have you even heard about np's and nurse anesthetists? or even nurses that works in pharma, informatics, legal-corporate, safety/OSHA, flight, investigative--like CSI? maybe you need to think out of the box...plus do you think nursing school is so easycompared to physics major? again, think again....
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  •  05-04-2008, 8:50 AM 2740776 in reply to 2740764

    Re: why Some people do something rather than just criticize and point fingers.

    great minds and doctors does not mean can be great nurses....too bad that's the reality...but the sad part, a lot of doctors from PI working as a tech....because they cannot pass sa exam dito...
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  •  05-04-2008, 1:17 PM 2741031 in reply to 2740764

    Re: why Some people do something rather than just criticize and point fingers.


    oh i see were you getting at.. you must be a nurse, yes i heard about corporate, pharma, travel nurses.. big bucks often times they have bigger salary than university professors!  i myself have a few friends in those field, in the corporate she adds its more relaxing..  sorry but i was just trying to make a point on why our government is not making an effort in making our motherland an industrialized nation.

     again sorry for making nurses as one of the example.. it is only because thats one of the trend that our country is pushing not to mention the "supermaid" program of gloria! even my aunt who is by the way a nurse for 30 yrs at least, is saying that philippines should be venturing to engineering and research so we can play a more major role in the global economy.

    the topic that i presume we are all trying to discuss here in this forum is how can we uplift, formulate plans and motivate our leaders and country men so that we can compete and become an industrialized nation not for us but for our children. 

     its not whether you're a corporate. pharma, home for the aged, or CSI nursing or clerk, small office secretaries to big CEO's secretaries it does not matter and to which is greater?  that as a  whole lot different and a broad subject, dont even want to touch it if i may add. for me its more on how you love your work and what is your goal in it, thats how i measure or define great.

    to make everything short, which would you or your children want to hear from other nations, that we are an industrialized nation and that we are a good source of professors, researchers and engineers? or a nation that is a good source of health care  (nurses, care givers, pt,) customer service(call centers) and other jobs that are less wanted by other countries?

    as i have stated in my previous post.. there is absolutely nothing wrong with OFW (that includes me) doing these jobs that is being thrown to us by these industrialized nations.. what im just trying to say is i hope our government would do something to somehow lessen this trend and focus more on sustainable develpment, as one of the poster here said..

    "sila na ang pupunta sa atin para mag trabaho sa mga trabaho na ayaw natin"  :-)

     

    nurses vs physicists or generaly speaking engineers for that matter? hmmm dont want to touch this even.. 

    great minds would not want to become nurses or specially think less of nursing, my job or any other jobs.

     

     

  •  05-04-2008, 1:57 PM 2741116 in reply to 2741031

    Re: why Some people do something rather than just criticize and point fingers.

    dupli?
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  •  05-04-2008, 1:58 PM 2741121 in reply to 2741031

    Re: why Some people do something rather than just criticize and point fingers.

    adrix7:

    oh i see were you getting at.. you must be a nurse, yes i heard about corporate, pharma, travel nurses.. big bucks often times they have bigger salary than university professors!  i myself have a few friends in those field, in the corporate she adds its more relaxing..  sorry but i was just trying to make a point on why our government is not making an effort in making our motherland an industrialized nation.

     again sorry for making nurses as one of the example.. it is only because thats one of the trend that our country is pushing not to mention the "supermaid" program of gloria! even my aunt who is by the way a nurse for 30 yrs at least, is saying that philippines should be venturing to engineering and research so we can play a more major role in the global economy.

    the topic that i presume we are all trying to discuss here in this forum is how can we uplift, formulate plans and motivate our leaders and country men so that we can compete and become an industrialized nation not for us but for our children. 

     its not whether you're a corporate. pharma, home for the aged, or CSI nursing or clerk, small office secretaries to big CEO's secretaries it does not matter and to which is greater?  that as a  whole lot different and a broad subject, dont even want to touch it if i may add. for me its more on how you love your work and what is your goal in it, thats how i measure or define great.

    to make everything short, which would you or your children want to hear from other nations, that we are an industrialized nation and that we are a good source of professors, researchers and engineers? or a nation that is a good source of health care  (nurses, care givers, pt,) customer service(call centers) and other jobs that are less wanted by other countries?

    as i have stated in my previous post.. there is absolutely nothing wrong with OFW (that includes me) doing these jobs that is being thrown to us by these industrialized nations.. what im just trying to say is i hope our government would do something to somehow lessen this trend and focus more on sustainable develpment, as one of the poster here said..

    "sila na ang pupunta sa atin para mag trabaho sa mga trabaho na ayaw natin"  :-)

     

    nurses vs physicists or generaly speaking engineers for that matter? hmmm dont want to touch this even.. 

    great minds would not want to become nurses or specially think less of nursing, my job or any other jobs.

     

     

    another imbicile comments....

    "great minds would not want to become nurses or specially think less of nursing, my job or any other jobs."

    "to make everything short, which would you or your children want to hear from other nations, that we are an industrialized nation and that we are a good source of professors, researchers and engineers? or a nation that is a good source of health care  (nurses, care givers, pt,) customer service(call centers) and other jobs that are less wanted by other countries?"

    here is your mistake again...nurses are professors and researchers too...who do you think the engineers ask about how to build a medical device that will be used by nurses? dont forget about scientists nurses and the informatics....

    bottom line, pls stop making stupid comparison among diff. professional jobs....there is no right/wrong answer!

    maybe ask your self, which one do you prefer, the person who save your life or the one who created WII?

    not everyone can be a physicists, nurses, doctors, etc....but whenever you look at their license, it all says that they are all professionals....

    I have 2 brothers who are engineers, both PI grad, both top board passers...one worked in PLDT, his job is design....the project was successful but the gov't have no money...the designs they made were already obselete but still no money to even start to build it....another example, my father in law was sent here in the US to study missiles and advanced weaponry...when he returned to the phil....same thing, pi govt have no money to buy or even try to build one.... btw, that brother of mine that have 2 engr degree, went for his master...not in technology but into divinity(priesthood).....it is the calling....same goes to me...I have 2 degrees...sports medicine and nursing...did i think about the money when I register to the university...nope..it is just my passion....the other one now works in at&t/comcast....mostly computers...cool...even his kids already knows how to use the comp and the internet by age 3, but whenever they are sick...they call us....

    in the first place, if you wanna become a nurse just for the money...pls don't...you will just end up killing patients and even more will suffer...

    to get back to your point,,,the answer is simple...jobs...no opportunities, these great minds will seek somewhere....

     

     

     


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  •  05-04-2008, 5:29 PM 2741550 in reply to 2740286

    Re: why Some people do something rather than just criticize and point fingers.

    Ronnie1976:

    Not a fatalistic but a realistic view point and you answered it well, you have taken account of the danger and tried to lessen the risk by lookin at all the possible danger ahead and not just telling your son to jump without any safety precaution of what lies ahead. because you have weighed in the pros and cons..it is only absurd to say.."JUMP MY SON AND HEAVEN AWAITS YOU.." very possitive indeed but dangerous..