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Alex & Tuli inside KUYA's house (OT)
Last post 04-08-2008, 1:49 AM by LACSONJR. 52 replies.
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Re: Alex & Tuli inside KUYA's house (OT)
Sana nga tuliin na xa...kelan nga ba?, diba sabi nya a.s.a.p.?...hahaha..it'll be very interesting what'll happen after he's circumcised...can't w8t!
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Re: Alex & Tuli inside KUYA's house (OT)
Wala tayo magagawa gusto na ni Alex ASP nga raw baka kasi kasunod yan SOP na.
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Re: Alex & Tuli inside KUYA's house (OT)
 LACSONJR:Believe lang ako sa kanya...he is so honest..lolz...walang kahiya-hiya nya sinabi yun sa harap ng national television...hehehe
wala syang kahiya-hiya kasi, hindi naan sya lumaki dito sa pinas' na ang kultura'y hindi ka pa tuli, kahiya-hiya, na sa kanyang kinalakihan na kabaligtaran ang kultura, walang hiya-hiya. GETZ? 
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Re: Alex & Tuli inside KUYA's house (OT)
How would his Italian/Filipino relatives and friends react if they find out he got "mutilated"/"purified"?
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| 03-27-2008, 9:42 PM |
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| 03-27-2008, 11:56 PM |
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Re: Alex & Tuli inside KUYA's house (OT)
Hindi kasi sang-ayon ang ibang bansa sa tuli, like in Italy and Germany. Parang yung bakuna sa mga infant, hindi rin sang-ayon ang ibang citizen nila doon. Walang masama kung hindi sya tuli at his age. Hindi rin issue ang pagiging "tunay na lalaki" doon kasi nga maaaring walang nag-tutuli doon sa lugar nila.
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| 03-28-2008, 12:34 AM |
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Re: Alex & Tuli inside KUYA's house (OT)
Mas mabuti siguro pagkatapos na ng PBB siya patuli. Mahirap kung sa loob pa siya. Di biro yun. Baka hindi siya maging komportable. Pano na lang sya sa mga tasks di ba. 
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| 03-28-2008, 12:48 AM |
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Re: Alex & Tuli inside KUYA's house (OT)
TFC Godfather: hEsED_aRcE: oo oras na nga pero wag muna ngaun sa loob ng bahay... :)
Is that what they said on PT or Uber?
huh?? di..opinion lang
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| 03-28-2008, 10:03 AM |
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Re: Alex & Tuli inside KUYA's house (OT)
cynical: Mas mabuti siguro pagkatapos na ng PBB siya patuli. Mahirap kung sa loob pa siya. Di biro yun. Baka hindi siya maging komportable. Pano na lang sya sa mga tasks di ba.
oo nga hindi niya magagawa mga tasks tsaka, mahirap din yun
EJAY:PBB TEEN EDITION PLUS BIG WINNER :)
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| 03-28-2008, 7:55 PM |
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lesson1898
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Re: politically incorrect
I think Alex will open a new window to the Filipinos that there are
cultures which do not circumcise. In fact around 90% of all males all
around the world are not circumcised. And that it is actually against
Catholic doctrines if Filipinos would only know. The Filipino's
discrimination about the supot guys is because of ignorance of that
very vital, functional and natural part of a man's body perfectly
designed by God. When God instituted circumcision, he instituted it for
the Jews and for the Jews alone. And even until now, Jewish
circumcision removes only a very small portion of the prepuce and never
the whole prepuce. To understand the function of the foreskin, please
visit http://uncircumcumcisedfilipinos.blogspot.com and click all the
related links there. The link to American Doctors Opposing Circumcision
(ADOC) video at the sidebar of the site is highly recommended for
visual expalantion of the functions and role of the foreskin. For
all those Filipinos who are still uncircumcised and want to remain that
way, there is a link on the site to the uncircumcisedfulipinos
group.
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| 03-28-2008, 8:15 PM |
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lesson1898
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Re: Alex & Tuli inside KUYA's house (OT)
Totoo, in fact, may mga bansa sa northern europe na hindi alam kung
ano ang circumcision sapagkat, walang tinutuli sa kanila. Sa Pilipinas,
kung supot ang tatay ay abnormal daw ang anak o marumi ang balat or
hindi tatangkad. Subalit, ang mga supot na europeo ay siyang
napakagaganda and balat, matatangad at maganda ang mga katawan at hindi
mga abnormal. Sa katunayan, sila ay mas normal o natural dahil hindi
nagalaw and kanilang pagkalalaki. Sa Canada, ang circumcision ay isang
krimen! Sa Asya, ang halos ang Pilipinas lamang na kung saan halos
lahat ng lalaki as tuli. Para sa mas maraming kaalaman, bisitahin ang mga sumusunod na websites: http://uncircumcisedfilipinos.blogspot.com http://www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.org/video/prepuce.html http://supotandproud.blogspot.com http://www.med-fraud.org/medical_fraud__and_the_criminal_.htm
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lesson1898
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Re: Alex & Tuli inside KUYA's house (OT)
walang dapat ikahiya sa pagiging supot. ang mga tuling Pilipino ang
dapat mahiya sapagkat sila ay nagpatuli dahil sa kahinaan at takot sa
tukso at hindi dahil sa kusang kagustuhan. Sila ay hindi gumamit ng
isip na may napakagandang function pala ang prepuce o foreskin
sa seksualidad at sa sensasyon ng lalaki at kang kanyang partner
kayat ito ay sadyang ginawa ng Diyos na bahagi ng katawan ng lalaki. marami
pang dapat matutunan ang mga Filipinos kung bakit 90% ng lahat ng
lalaki sa buong mundo ay hindi tuli at ang mga tuling Jews o mga Hudyo
ay kaunting kaunti lamang ang tinanggal sa kanilang foreskin at hindi
ang buong bahagi ng foreskin. Dahil sa pagtuli, at dahil sa
sugat na dala nito, ang ari ng mga Filipinos ay ari na may PEKLAT at
hindi magandang para tingnan sa mga eurpeo, hapones, tsino, at
karamihan ng mga amerikano. http://uncircumcisedfilipinos.blogspot.com http://uncutnews1.blogspot.com http://supotandproud.blogspot.com
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lesson1898
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Re: Alex & Tuli inside KUYA's house (OT)
Sa Revised Penal Code ng Pilipinas, ang mutilation ay isang krimen
at ang pagtutuli ay hindi matatawarang isang mutilation kayat ang mga
doctor na nagtutuli ay guilty sa krimen ito.
QUESTION1: What laws under the Criminal Code
permit doctors to amputate normal, healthy and vital body parts of unconsenting
individuals for non-medical reasons or permit parents to make such a request? (The
unlawful amputation of body parts or harm to them is clearly forbidden by law
and constitutes mayhem - assault and battery.)
QUESTION 2: Under
the law, doctors can provide (and parents may only request) medically necessary treatment to
minors. Where under any medical code of ethics are doctors permitted to amputate
normal, healthy and vital body parts of children merely at the request of
parents - and for which there is no medical necessity?
QUESTION 3: The purpose of surgery is to
repair body parts or amputate body parts which become diseased and threaten
the life of the patients. Where under any medical code of ethics are doctors
permitted to amputate body parts for cultural or religious reasons?
QUESTION 4: Where under any medical code of
ethics are doctors permitted to amputate normal body parts of children in order
that they resemble their parents or their peers?
QUESTION 5: The Hippocratic Oath states that
in any medical treatment the physician has the primary obligation to "First
Do No Harm". Since circumcision destroys important erogenous tissue and a
vital protective covering of the penis - how can doctors performing
circumcisions claim that they are working in accordance with the Medical Code of
Ethics? The American Academy of Pediatrics
acknowledged
that the foreskin is important and is required for life. Medical organizations
around the world also agree with this fact.
http://uncircumcisedfilipinos.blogspot.com http://uncutnews1.blogspot.com
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lesson1898
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Re: Alex & Tuli inside KUYA's house (OT)
Catholics Against Circumcision
Did
you know? Catholics have NO religious requirement for circumcision, NO
medical association in the world recommends it, and most Catholics
worldwide do NOT circumcise their children.
http://www.catholicsagainstcircumcision.org/
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lesson1898
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Re: Alex & Tuli inside KUYA's house (OT)
LET'S GET CIVILISED
Male or female circumcision is the practice of
surgically modifying the private part of the human being. This
practice, in one form or the other, exists in many parts of the world,
not least of all in Africa, and in particular, Nigeria. Female
circumcision is negatively referred to as female genital mutilation. It
is difficult to understand why male circumcision is not referred to in
the same way. Some insight into this is necessary. Most
of us may not realise that male circumcision is NOT common in many
parts of the world, particularly in the Western world. It may come as a
shock to many to find that the average European man is uncircumcised.
In fact, the hospitals in the UK, US and most other Western countries
do not perform circumcision. It is considered an outdated religious
practice. Should you require it for, say, a baby boy, you would have to
seek out a Jewish rabbi or some other practitioners to have it done.
The Jews are the only white group with a history of circumcision. It
must, therefore, be understood that the issue of circumcision, whether
for male or for female, is completely outside the cultural practices
(or understanding) of the Western world. They neither understand nor
accept the practice. They are, therefore, not qualified to determine
the expediency of the practice. Male circumcision is simply tolerated
because the Bible speaks about it. Otherwise, we would have been faced
with Western media onslaughts accompanied by local "let's get
civilised" civil rights, NGO and other groups, trying to convince us
that male circumcision is primitive, barbaric, reduces male sexuality,
scars the organ and causes untold pain and suffering to the baby. That
it risks permanent deformation and disability to the baby, or death
through fatal infection. It is, therefore, totally unjustified and
unjustifiable. Our ancestors could even have
been accused of circumcising to prevent male promiscuity! Statistics
would be provided to show that uncircumcised men are more virile, and
more fertile than the circumcised ones. Parents would be accused of
violating the rights of their baby boys. Imagine then, the difficulty
of trying to convince our "been-to" and Western-oriented elites that
male circumcision representing hundreds of years of ancestral practice
should only be changed with caution if at all, and then only when it is
OBVIOUS to the people that the practice is dangerous, and has become
unnecessary, having been overtaken by practices generally considered
more advantageous to the people as a whole. Imagine a situation where
there was a British or American law against male circumcision. Thank
God for the Bible. Some would say that female
circumcision is not in the Bible but neither is wine-carrying, or
church weddings - that does not make it wrong. Female circumcision is
not synonymous with VVF as many groups have fraudulently implied. And
the general conception that it is performed to reduce female sexual
pleasure has been manipulated to inflame gender rights emotions. This
was effectively shown a few years back in Lagos when, on an Igbo
phone-in program, the presenter asked people to call in and air their
views on the issue of female circumcision. The responses were
enlightening. Not only were all the callers female and circumcised,
each and every one of them insisted that she has or will circumcise any
daughter of hers. None believed that her circumcision had affected her
negatively, and all considered it a practice worth retaining. The
impression I got was that it was mainly the uncircumcised (and many
opportunistic NGOs) that had a grouse with the practice. My reflection
on the issue led me to wonder -- what would the Western advocates of
human rights abuse think of this? Whether right or wrong, the facts
remain. Like the response of the nurse shows, many girls have a
clitoris which extends outside the vagina. Discussions with these girls
will tell you that for such people, even the simple act of walking can
be a serious turn-on. In this situation, how can anyone say that a
well-performed circumcision will not be morally beneficial to the girl? A
critic may insist that this is the same as trying to stop promiscuity.
If a mother helping her girl to manage sexual excesses as stated above
is wrong, then taking her to a doctor to correct a malformed leg could
also be wrong. Depending on your viewpoint (Western or Traditional)
female circumcision may or may not be expedient at this point in our
national development, but for God's sake, let us stop the foolishness
of presuming that our ancestors were idiots who did things without
reason, and who enjoyed the pain of the screaming baby. Mean old men
who approved a practice fraught with risks for the baby and its parents
(to whom the baby was considered precious). Thinking so would be the
height of colonialism.
As
the practice carries a risk of infection, deformation, bad scarring and
other problems due to the way it is presently being handled, we can
have qualified medical practitioners perform it as is done for males.
We are then left with the matter of its social expediency.
At
this point, I would advice that the choice remains with the parents
until such a time when the practice is well researched and understood
without Western bias by our own people, and in our own environment. I
say this because I find that most NGO discussions refer to the worst
forms of the practice, usually based on information from other parts of
the world. Many parts of the world definitely perform circumcision very
differently, both in content and in context. For some, it is just
token, while for others, it is major surgery. Using inapplicable or
exaggerated examples give rise to serious misinformation, with its
attendant error of judgment. Is it right to throw away everything? The
baby with the bath water? There are as many arguments for male
circumcision as against it (Europeans and Moslems will tell you), and
so it is for female circumcision. As detailed
earlier, all the arguments against female circumcision also apply to
their male counterpart. The main difference is that well-trained
doctors or birth attendants handle the boys. The common question is
-Why female circumcision? My answer would be - Why male circumcision?
We cannot even say we practice male circumcision because it is in the
Bible since the practice predates the coming of Christianity, and the
missionaries were probably NOT circumcised.
http://allafrica.com
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lesson1898
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Re: Alex & Tuli inside KUYA's house (OT)
Prejudice in the Philippines
One way circumcision is
perpetuated is by prejudice against intact men. Some men get themselves
circumcised in order to escape this prejudice.
Others have their
sons cut to protect them from it. Both ways are evasions, not
solutions. Like hair-straightening and skin bleaching by Black people,
they are defeatist and demoralising.
Foreskin protects
The perception that foreskin is unhygienic is a myth, says George C.
Denniston, M.D., president of the Seattle-based Doctors Opposing
Circumcision. “Foreskin protects against disease; it doesn’t cause
disease. If foreskin is unhygienic, eyelids should be considered
unhygienic.”
LETTERS FROM THE EMAIL
Genital cutting practices vary widely in The Philippines.
Many
guys are cut in hospitals by Western-trained doctors, but there is only
one doctor per 10,000 Filipinos (vs about 1 doctor per 500 Americans).
Most traditionally "circumcised" Filipinos are actually supercised,
which is to say the skin tube is drawn forward and a longitidinal slit
is made in the top at the rollover point. The skin can then flop free
of the glans but nothing has been amputated. Such a cut person will
self-report that he has been circumcised.
Most genital cutting in The Philippines is in defiance of the Catholic church's official policy against it.
-Ron (dome68iou1@juno.com)
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lesson1898
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Re: Alex & Tuli inside KUYA's house (OT)
Circumcision may shorten the penis:
"Circumcised
men had shorter erect penises than uncircumcised men (p<0.05)."
- Richters J, Gerofi J, Donovan B., Venereology 1995; 8(2):
77-81.
http://uncircumcisedfilipinos.blogspot.com
http://uncutnews1.blogspot.com
http://supotandproud.blogspot.com
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| 03-28-2008, 8:57 PM |
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lesson1898
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Re: Alex & Tuli inside KUYA's house (OT)
38 REASONS NOT TO CIRCUMCISE http://www.circumstitions.com/reasonsnotto.html GALLERY OF FAMOUS INTACT MEN http://www.circumstitions.com/Gallery.html
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lesson1898
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Re: Alex & Tuli inside KUYA's house (OT)
MGA OSPITAL AT DUKTOR SA PILIPINAS NA KONTRA SA TULE: http://xtulepinoy.tripod.com/
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| 03-28-2008, 9:14 PM |
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Re: Alex & Tuli inside KUYA's house (OT)
i think alex is somehow being used in this tuli issue. he's like an endorser . kc di ba big bro will have an oplan tuli for young boys out there. MAYBE he is being pressured by pbb's management to do it. although for me, there's nothing wrong if ur not yet tuli. in his case, understandable naman kc nga in his country, hnde uso un. actually, in most countries. even americans, japanese hnde big deal yan. it's more on cultural or religious thing na lang tlga ang circumcision.
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