palahubug99:

bobo_joe:

What do you expect from the idiots who control the Whitehouse?  They spend all the resources in Iraq to make their defence contractor friends richer.  No money left to update technology.  Typical Nazi mentality.

Have a good day,

Hehehe. What the report doesn't tell you is that the countermeasures being developed for the Sizzler missile are classified. But just for the sake of argument the Chinese fire sizzlers from land across the Taiwan Strait. At Mach 3, they can't be all that maneuverable. All Aegis has to do is to throw a wall of slugs between the missile and its intended target when it "pops-up" to get a radar lock. That's something a CIWS/Phalanx gatling gun can accomplish at 3000 rounds per minute.

Btw, did you know Thailand has an aircraft carrier now? I just picked up this interesting tidbit from Jane's Fighting Ships. Only the Filipens is stuck with antiquated equipment from the middle ages. Our "flagship" is the frigate (note it's not even a destroyer) Rajah Humabon which is not equipped with antiship missiles at all - just 3 3-inch (76mm) guns and 6 40mm bofors AA cannon. Compare this with the tiny island of Singapore which is taking delivery this year of 6 Formidable-class "stealth" frigates armed with Harpoon missiles.

Meanwhile, Taiwan is not waiting around for an invasion from Red China. It has retired its 8 aging Knox-class frigates and acquired 4 Kidd-class destroyers that are Aegis capable from the US (Taiwan has 7 other Kwang Hwa-class destroyers). The Kidd-class is very capable and the equivalent of the top of the line Arleigh Burke-class destroyers of the US Navy. The Japanese Maritime Self-Defence Force has 17 submarines (4 are nuclear-powered) and 43 Spruance-class destroyers.

I think you need to check the info on "Kidd-Class" destroyers. First of all, they are not "AEGIS" capable ships but rather carry the NTU (New Threat Upgrade) system. NTU is NOT AEGIS at all. Sure they are a bit more capable than regular NTDS based destroyers. The first AEGIS capable ship ever launched is the USS Ticonderoga and it's a Cruiser not a destroyer.

You mentioned that the KIDD class destroyers are the equivalent to the Arleigh Burke class destroyers, that I can say is purely baseless. If you have access to Janes Fighting Ships, I strongly suggest to take a look at it again and see the difference between the two. 

The JMSDF do not have 43 Spruance class destroyers... I say check your sources again. 

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Earth has no place for you fanatics... so keep doing what you're doing and your "paradise" will be full of people just like you..

China is in the process of expanding its submarine fleet? This is in line to what I've been saying all along. Pretty soon they will be in a position to challenge the US Navy for supremacy in the Pacific over Taiwan.

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_8357253?source=rss&nclick_check=1

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Success is not final. Failure is not fatal. It's the courage to continue that counts.

rocky.berbets:

I think you need to check the info on "Kidd-Class" destroyers. First of all, they are not "AEGIS" capable ships but rather carry the NTU (New Threat Upgrade) system. NTU is NOT AEGIS at all. Sure they are a bit more capable than regular NTDS based destroyers. The first AEGIS capable ship ever launched is the USS Ticonderoga and it's a Cruiser not a destroyer.

You mentioned that the KIDD class destroyers are the equivalent to the Arleigh Burke class destroyers, that I can say is purely baseless. If you have access to Janes Fighting Ships, I strongly suggest to take a look at it again and see the difference between the two. 

The JMSDF do not have 43 Spruance class destroyers... I say check your sources again. 

Bro, check out the guided missile destroyer USS Shoup (Arleigh Burke-class). This is from Fleet Week in San Francisco CA last year:

This vessel was commissioned in 2004. There is a 5-inch gun mount forward (not seen here) that is completely automated and unmanned, i.e., controlled by computer from the CIC (combat information center). I am told the crew has a very high gunnery rating from the fleet meaning they have destroyed every target they have fired upon with this gun. There is also a CIWS gatling gun (the R2D2-like structure in the middle) for air defense. But the main armament are the 14 missile launchers (yes, I counted them) located aft which can fire tomahawk cruise, sea standard, asroc and harpoon antiship missiles while tracking multiple air, surface and subsurface targets from the CIC. The ASROC missiles are used to destroy submarines and have replaced the old depth charges from WW2. Curiously, there was even a small US marine detachment on board (10-man squad). They were armed to the teeth with camouflaged body armor, Beretta M9s and regulation M-4s when I went for a visit.

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Success is not final. Failure is not fatal. It's the courage to continue that counts.