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  •  03-17-2008, 12:56 AM 2685477

    Did Pacquiao and Marquez finish their business?

    Did Pacquiao and Marquez finish their business? Do you agree with the decision?

    • Yes (50%)
    • No (50%)
    • Total Votes: 16


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  •  03-17-2008, 2:12 AM 2685517 in reply to 2685477

    Re: Did Pacquiao and Marquez finish their business?

    newsonline:
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    isa pa iyong walang duda....dapat patulogin na next time...
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  •  03-17-2008, 3:12 AM 2685552 in reply to 2685517

    Re: Did Pacquiao and Marquez finish their business?

    Bussiness is over!!! Marquez has no title any more before he can again Pacquioa he must fist atleast one of the 1 contender ng WBC, WBO o ng IBF ika nga put himself in no.1 contender before he can do that may he 37 yrs. na balewala na.. TAPOS!!! 
  •  03-17-2008, 3:12 AM 2685553 in reply to 2685517

    Re: Did Pacquiao and Marquez finish their business?

    Bussiness is over!!! Marquez has no title any more before he can figth again Pacquioa he must first atleast one of the 1 contender ng WBC, WBO o ng IBF ika nga put himself in no.1 contender before he can do that may he 37 yrs. na balewala na.. TAPOS!!! 
  •  03-17-2008, 4:51 AM 2685588 in reply to 2685477

    Re: Did Pacquiao and Marquez finish their business?

    I watched it live. I believe Marquez won that fight. I agree on how Donaire and Trinidad scored the fight, they had it Marquez winning by a point. But then again, destiny has its own way of repaying. I believe that it was a sweet revenge for Pacquiao. Paquiao won the first fight, but one of the judges admitted that he made a mistake in scoring the fight. That's how Marquez was able to hang on with his belt. Marquez deserves this bitter loss, because he deprived us for four years... Now, let him be deprived for the rest of his life!
  •  03-17-2008, 6:12 AM 2685600 in reply to 2685477

    Re: Did Pacquiao and Marquez finish their business?

    i will comment a BIG NO! because again the decision was still controversial. even though manny knock down marquez in 3rd round, marquez had a clean points over manny.

    i will say that its better to have a part 3, to see who's the greatest fighter. pero mas maganda kung may KO! not over 8 round.

    i watched the fight 4 times, from LIVE, and to the 3 replays over TFC pay per view. the decision was another BIG controversy.

    to manny, be gentleman and give marquez an another rematch, or you are afraid because marquez is not a easy opponent, thats why u dont want to have a rematch.

  •  03-17-2008, 8:12 AM 2685647 in reply to 2685477

    Re: Did Pacquiao and Marquez finish their business?

    I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, YES, IT'S OVER, BECAUSE WHAT IF THEY WILL BE TIED UP AGAIN? DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A REMATCH AGAIN?
  •  03-17-2008, 10:11 AM 2685718 in reply to 2685477

    Re: Did Pacquiao and Marquez finish their business?

    No. It was not convincing. It should be a draw.
  •  03-17-2008, 12:06 PM 2685807 in reply to 2685477

    Re: Did Pacquiao and Marquez finish their business?

    YES!  Manny won the fight. The judges scored it right. Manny dished out the knockdown for Marquez in the 3rd. Lastly, Manny had all the stamina and energy to last the full 12 rounds. Let us not doubt Manny's VICTORY!
  •  03-17-2008, 2:45 PM 2685925 in reply to 2685600

    Re: Did Pacquiao and Marquez finish their business?

    bohemyo:

    i will comment a BIG NO! because again the decision was still controversial. even though manny knock down marquez in 3rd round, marquez had a clean points over manny.

    i will say that its better to have a part 3, to see who's the greatest fighter. pero mas maganda kung may KO! not over 8 round.

    i watched the fight 4 times, from LIVE, and to the 3 replays over TFC pay per view. the decision was another BIG controversy.

    to manny, be gentleman and give marquez an another rematch, or you are afraid because marquez is not a easy opponent, thats why u dont want to have a rematch.

    Manny won and that’s it. Some may have different conclusions but they are now just personal opinions. The three judges had ringside seats so who else can come up with a better decision? Sure judges are only human and can make mistakes, but that is why there are three of them. I don’t believe that 2 out of 3 will make an erroneous decision.

    Common accept it no matter how close it was Manny Pacquiao, is the better fighter. Congratulations Champ !!!

    As for a rematch..Manny afraid? common wake up. He may have his reasons to decline a rematch, but I am sure it is not because he is afraid. 

     


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  •  03-17-2008, 11:29 PM 2686277 in reply to 2685925

    Re: Did Pacquiao and Marquez finish their business?

    Even though Marquez is my ward (just kidding !!) Big Smile , I further believe that Pacman won the fight...

    As a matter of fact, when I watched their fight at the PPV cinema, Dean Quinito Henson has released his own "personal scorecard" and he elaborated that he scored the bout 114-113 in favor of Manny, then Michael Buffer read the verdict and he mentioned the scorecard of one of the three judges that had been assigned in the fight (if I'm not mistaken he's Tom Miller)...Miller scored it 114-113 in favor of Manny then Buffer had announced the winner of the fight (of course, who else but the Pacman) Big Smile   

    When I returned to our house to watch the delayed telecast of the fight (sa totoo lang bakit sa GME pa ito pinalabas eh nakipag-share lang naman sila sa Solar Sports di tulad ng ABS kahit walang Solar Sports kaya nilang mag-cover nang mag-isa ng kahit anong boxing matches), I tried to score the bout through a ballpen and a piece of paper....and it so happened that my personal scorecard is also the same with Dean Quinito...ika nga tumumpak din yung scorecard ko sa socrecard ni Dean Quinito...Smile

    Here's my personal scorecard:

                             R1    R2    R3    R4   R5   R6   R7   R8   R9   R10   R11   R12                                TOTALS 

    PACQUIAO        9       9      10    10    9     10   10     9     9     10      10      9                                     114

    MARQUEZ         10     10      8     9    10      9    9     10    10     9       9      10                                    113

    HINT: I gave 10-8 score in round 3 due to Pacman's knockdown against Marquez....

    it is obvious that Manny really won that fight...i-REPLAY NYO PA YAN NG MARAMING BESES !!Stick out tongue

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    NEWSBITS FROM GBP: Watch for the upcoming fight of my ward, Pinoy WBO bantamweight champion Gerry Penalosa against Thailand's Ratanachai Sor Vorapin on April 6 to be telecast, of course, on ABS-CBN....Golden Boy Promotions, in cooperation with ALA Boxing Gym and ABS-CBN Sports, will showcase the event to be held at the historic Araneta Coliseum...Wink

    here's the news about the said event courtesy of philboxing.com

    News  

    ALA PROMOTIONS ANNOUNCES CO-PROMOTION WITH GOLDEN BOY ON APR 6 “INVASION”

    PhilBoxing.com


     

    Golden Boy Promotions and ALA Promotions in association with giant broadcasting network ABS-CBN has announced a showcase of four championship battles in a blockbuster card dubbed the “Invasion: Philippines vs. the World” and top-billed by the title fight between reigning WBO bantamweight champion Gerry Peñalosa and challenger Ratanachai Sor Vorapin of Thailand.

    “Invasion” will headline Peñalosa’s first title defense after he defeated then reigning champion Jhonny Gonzales at 2:45 in the 7th round in August of last year. Vorapin is the No. 1 ranked challenger seeking to dethrone Peñalosa less than a year after taking the throne.

    The undercard will feature three title fights for reigning WBO Intercontinental junior featherweight champion Rey “Boom-Boom” Bautista and IBF No. 6 junior bantamweight contender AJ “Bazooka” Banal. Reigning WBO Oriental junior featherweight king Ciso “Kid Terrible” Morales.

    Bautista (24-1-0, KO 17), the 21-yr-old pride of Candijay, Bohol, will be confronting his second title defense against Genaro Camargo (16-3-0, KO 10) of Sinaloa, Mexico. He won the vacant WBO Inter-Continental super bantamweight title in Feb 2007 when he defeated Mexican Marino Montiel in the 4th round. At the same time he gained the vacant WBO Asia Pacific Youth super bantamweight championship belt.

    Banal (16-0-1, KO 13) will be waging a 12-round IBF eliminator for the No. 1 position against IBF No. 10 junior bantamweight contender Caril Herrera, a veteran undefeated warrior (21-0-0, KO 13) from Montevideo, Uruguay. The winner in this bloody contest would have a striking distance at the championship crown currently held by Russian warrior Dimitri Kirilov.

    Another Boholano from Talbon, Morales will be in his first title defense against Korean Yoo Shin Kim (6-1-0, KO 4) of Seoul. Morales took over last month the vacant WBO Oriental super bantamweight division as well as the vacant WBO Asia Pacific super bantamweight title when he defeated by unanimous decision Marangin Marbun of Indonesia. He remains undefeated in his ten career fights and won six by way of knockout.

    The Peñalosa-Vorapin card is set to rock the ring at Araneta Coliseum on April 6 (Sunday) in Quezon City, Manila.

    Meanwhile, ALA Promotions president Michael Aldeguer also announced that a press conference for the upcoming “Invasion” card will be held on Mar 18 (Tuesday) at the Magnolia Room of City Sports Club Cebu in Cebu Business Park at 11:00 AM. Expected to attend in the gathering will be Bautista, Banal, and non-title fighters Michael Domingo and Bert Batawang. Morales, who is now training in the United States, could not attend the press con. 
     

    source: http://philboxing.com/news/story-15671.html

    isa pang pahabol: GME coverage of Pac-JMM 2 really sucks !! DAMING COMMERCIALS !! yan tuloy, binabatikos kayo ng maraming fans ni Pacman !!Stick out tongueStick out tongue

     

     

     

     

     

     


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  •  03-31-2008, 2:33 PM 2698074 in reply to 2685477

    Re: Did Pacquiao and Marquez finish their business?

    NO! Many people from all over the world, including his own countrymen, think that Marquez won. I myself saw it that way.

    Pacquiao must give Marquez a rematch. And not at the 135-lb class. The title that he won UNconvincingly was for the 130-lb class, so that's what he should defend against Marquez. Forcing Marquez to fight him at 135 is a copout.

    What's controversial is whether or not Manny deserves the 130-lb belt. So that's what he should settle. If he says that he can't make the 130-lb weight anymore, then that means he really didn't deserve the 130-lb belt, because that's not really his weight at this point of his career. He will just admit that that belt really belongs to Marquez.

    To settle all doubts once and for all, Manny must give a rematch to Marquez for the 130-lb title.

  •  03-31-2008, 3:38 PM 2698140 in reply to 2698074

    Re: Did Pacquiao and Marquez finish their business?

    Marquez actually won the fight and there is nothing to blame on their part if they really complained too much....

    Only those pacquiao fanatics believes pacquiao won....

     Watch the video ten times or more to know who really is the real victor...

    You will soon realize that pacquiao actually failed to dominate marquez...

    One thing more, Marquez proves that he is better than pacquiao as in more skillfull, a stylist type with good timing and execution..

    But i have to admit that pacquiao did better than their first meet in 2003 but isn't enough to prove that he is better than marquez...

    No hard feelings men, this is not just an opinion but a fact....

    Pacquioa"s knockout against marquez in the third round carried only two rounds for him....



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  •  03-31-2008, 4:05 PM 2698177 in reply to 2685925

    Re: Did Pacquiao and Marquez finish their business?

    Lazzaluv:
    bohemyo:

    i will comment a BIG NO! because again the decision was still controversial. even though manny knock down marquez in 3rd round, marquez had a clean points over manny.

    i will say that its better to have a part 3, to see who's the greatest fighter. pero mas maganda kung may KO! not over 8 round.

    i watched the fight 4 times, from LIVE, and to the 3 replays over TFC pay per view. the decision was another BIG controversy.

    to manny, be gentleman and give marquez an another rematch, or you are afraid because marquez is not a easy opponent, thats why u dont want to have a rematch.

    Manny won and that’s it. Some may have different conclusions but they are now just personal opinions. The three judges had ringside seats so who else can come up with a better decision? Sure judges are only human and can make mistakes, but that is why there are three of them. I don’t believe that 2 out of 3 will make an erroneous decision.

    Common accept it no matter how close it was Manny Pacquiao, is the better fighter. Congratulations Champ !!!

    As for a rematch..Manny afraid? common wake up. He may have his reasons to decline a rematch, but I am sure it is not because he is afraid. 

     

    Why not watch their first fight and their later fight... Manny Knocks Marquez three times in the first round but could not managed to capitalized the later rounds... This end up in a controversial draw because of the error of one of the judges that should be favored Pacquiao....

    But repeating it watching and watching all over again, Marquez totally outboxed Pacquiao almost all the later rounds except the first round. Pacquiao maybe won that fight but I am not blind to say that Marquez is not the fighter, Marquez is the better fighter...

    There was no clear domination on Pacquiao's part of the later rounds except the first round

    You can't just tell that Pacquiao is the better fighter simply because he knocked Marquez several times....

     

    Their second fight is another controversy, but this time Marquez can claim that he win and that he is still the better fighter compared to pacquiao...

    The first fight, Pacquiao can claim that he win but I doubt Pacquiao can claim that he is a better fighter basing on their first and second fight...

     

     



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  •  04-02-2008, 12:16 PM 2699833 in reply to 2698177

    Re: Did Pacquiao and Marquez finish their business?

    Clanmaker11:
    Lazzaluv:
    bohemyo:

    i will comment a BIG NO! because again the decision was still controversial. even though manny knock down marquez in 3rd round, marquez had a clean points over manny.

    i will say that its better to have a part 3, to see who's the greatest fighter. pero mas maganda kung may KO! not over 8 round.

    i watched the fight 4 times, from LIVE, and to the 3 replays over TFC pay per view. the decision was another BIG controversy.

    to manny, be gentleman and give marquez an another rematch, or you are afraid because marquez is not a easy opponent, thats why u dont want to have a rematch.

    Manny won and that’s it. Some may have different conclusions but they are now just personal opinions. The three judges had ringside seats so who else can come up with a better decision? Sure judges are only human and can make mistakes, but that is why there are three of them. I don’t believe that 2 out of 3 will make an erroneous decision.

    Common accept it no matter how close it was Manny Pacquiao, is the better fighter. Congratulations Champ !!!

    As for a rematch..Manny afraid? common wake up. He may have his reasons to decline a rematch, but I am sure it is not because he is afraid. 

     

    Why not watch their first fight and their later fight... Manny Knocks Marquez three times in the first round but could not managed to capitalized the later rounds... This end up in a controversial draw because of the error of one of the judges that should be favored Pacquiao....

    But repeating it watching and watching all over again, Marquez totally outboxed Pacquiao almost all the later rounds except the first round. Pacquiao maybe won that fight but I am not blind to say that Marquez is not the fighter, Marquez is the better fighter...

    There was no clear domination on Pacquiao's part of the later rounds except the first round

    You can't just tell that Pacquiao is the better fighter simply because he knocked Marquez several times....

     

    Their second fight is another controversy, but this time Marquez can claim that he win and that he is still the better fighter compared to pacquiao...

    The first fight, Pacquiao can claim that he win but I doubt Pacquiao can claim that he is a better fighter basing on their first and second fight...

     

     

    too bad, bumagsak si marquez...mahirap manalo ang panay tumba....look at marciano and tyson....hindi sila better boxer sa mga pinatumba nila pero panalo sila, that's all matters....
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  •  04-02-2008, 1:30 PM 2699879 in reply to 2699833

    Re: Did Pacquiao and Marquez finish their business?

    Manny won...

    though unconvincingly...

    So... I'd love to see them fight again...

  •  04-02-2008, 9:38 PM 2700267 in reply to 2699879

    Re: Did Pacquiao and Marquez finish their business?

    Let's examine the last fight between Pacquiao and Marquez.  Let's look at it as a fight that easily could have gone 15 rounds.  As I see it, Marquez is a good counter puncher.  What is a counter puncher?  He is the boxer who waits for you to come to him.  He learns your punches and is prepared to block or slip them.  Marquez was able to slip and block Manny's punches and land blows to this face and body, but he was never able to put Manny down or wear him out.  I believe that, if Marquez was a top ranked boxer, one or more of those connecting blows should have put Manny down or put him in real trouble.  BUT none did.  Marquez hit Manny several times, but he never dominated Manny.  On the other hand, when Manny got in a punch, Marquez landed on his but or had his knees buckle.  Clearly to me Manny is the stronger fighter and is in better shape.  If the fight had gone 15 rounds, Marquez would have been knocked out.  I say that because he was making some pretty peculiar moves in the last rounds and was knocked down because of one of them.  Then there was that excellent knee buckling punch Manny got in.  How in the world he hit Marquez square on the chin when the rest of his body was past Marquez I'll never know.  This proves to me that Manny was still thinking clearly on his feet and that, in another round or two, he would have convincingly subdued Marquez.

     I think two of the three judges got it right.  In that fight it wasn't the number of punches landed,  it was Manny taking the punches he had to walk into to hit Marquez.  I don't think Marquez is as hard a puncher as they claim he is.  He is fast and accurate, but his punches never stopped Manny from coming in.  Manny wanted it more and he took the beating to get it.  If I was Marquez, I would think twice about another fight with Manny.  If he gets one, I think Freddie Roach will teach Manny a way to break him down and send him away for good like Moralis.
     

     

     

  •  04-03-2008, 10:32 AM 2700662 in reply to 2700267

    Re: Did Pacquiao and Marquez finish their business?

    do you remember  golden boy against mayweather...mas maraming suntok si delahoya pero mas accurate at mas damaging ang suntok ni may....
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  •  04-08-2008, 8:56 AM 2704945 in reply to 2700662

    Re: Did Pacquiao and Marquez finish their business?

    wow, nasa pinas pala si marquez at may radio interview pa...i guess matutuloy na rin ang trilogy ng laban....start na ng promotion yan...magaling...i don't mind....i will watch it again!
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  •  04-08-2008, 10:07 PM 2705686 in reply to 2698177

    Re: Did Pacquiao and Marquez finish their business?

    Clanmaker11:
    Lazzaluv:
    bohemyo:

    i will comment a BIG NO! because again the decision was still controversial. even though manny knock down marquez in 3rd round, marquez had a clean points over manny.

    i will say that its better to have a part 3, to see who's the greatest fighter. pero mas maganda kung may KO! not over 8 round.

    i watched the fight 4 times, from LIVE, and to the 3 replays over TFC pay per view. the decision was another BIG controversy.

    to manny, be gentleman and give marquez an another rematch, or you are afraid because marquez is not a easy opponent, thats why u dont want to have a rematch.

     

    Manny won and that’s it. Some may have different conclusions but they are now just personal opinions. The three judges had ringside seats so who else can come up with a better decision? Sure judges are only human and can make mistakes, but that is why there are three of them. I don’t believe that 2 out of 3 will make an erroneous decision.

    Common accept it no matter how close it was Manny Pacquiao, is the better fighter. Congratulations Champ !!!

    As for a rematch..Manny afraid? common wake up. He may have his reasons to decline a rematch, but I am sure it is not because he is afraid. 

     

    Why not watch their first fight and their later fight... Manny Knocks Marquez three times in the first round but could not managed to capitalized the later rounds... This end up in a controversial draw because of the error of one of the judges that should be favored Pacquiao....

    But repeating it watching and watching all over again, Marquez totally outboxed Pacquiao almost all the later rounds except the first round. Pacquiao maybe won that fight but I am not blind to say that Marquez is not the fighter, Marquez is the better fighter...

    There was no clear domination on Pacquiao's part of the later rounds except the first round

    You can't just tell that Pacquiao is the better fighter simply because he knocked Marquez several times....

     

    Their second fight is another controversy, but this time Marquez can claim that he win and that he is still the better fighter compared to pacquiao...

    The first fight, Pacquiao can claim that he win but I doubt Pacquiao can claim that he is a better fighter basing on their first and second fight...

     

     

    In the first fight Marquez was lucky the three knockdown rule was not in effect. Would have been a first round TKO.

    The second bout, watch the third round closely and you will notice that this time Marquez was saved by grabbing the ropes on his way down the second time and was saved by the bell.

     

     You are entitled to your opinion, and that’s all it is. Too bad your man lost.

     


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