Poverty is worldwide issue.  Philippines for one is suffering from this.  But I find it ironic these people are blaming it all to governemnt.  The government may be one of the reasons but they are to be as to blame for their lives.  It has something to do with an individual's mentality. To stop pointing fingers on who's to blame with their miserable life,  My mom came here in Cebu with nothing and knows no one.  From the port she directly went to the market and ask people with a store if they need a worker.  She found a job selling meat before she could find a room to live which is also near the market.  My mom's hardwork paid off slowly.  I was born and we lived in squatters area but my mom knows how to save. i was 8 or 9 she was able to buy a lot and build a house in subdivision. she does this by herself. Now she has  a stall in the market and have a good business and enjoying a good life.  A person is answerable to his own life not the government.  Nothing will happen to one's life if you just sit and do nothing. You have to work hard in order to have the life you want since not all of us are blessed to be born with money. 

only1country:

Poverty is worldwide issue.  Philippines for one is suffering from this.  But I find it ironic these people are blaming it all to governemnt.  The government may be one of the reasons but they are to be as to blame for their lives.  It has something to do with an individual's mentality. To stop pointing fingers on who's to blame with their miserable life,  My mom came here in Cebu with nothing and knows no one.  From the port she directly went to the market and ask people with a store if they need a worker.  She found a job selling meat before she could find a room to live which is also near the market.  My mom's hardwork paid off slowly.  I was born and we lived in squatters area but my mom knows how to save. i was 8 or 9 she was able to buy a lot and build a house in subdivision. she does this by herself. Now she has  a stall in the market and have a good business and enjoying a good life.  A person is answerable to his own life not the government.  Nothing will happen to one's life if you just sit and do nothing. You have to work hard in order to have the life you want since not all of us are blessed to be born with money. 

the gov't runs the system of life of its citizens...the citizens pay taxes and elect the officials to serve them. let say, a gov't project for rebuilding the community, we can make it simple like a safe and simple roadway or bridge, if corrupt officials in the govt did not provide proper bidding and no kurakot, the project will be done in proper manner that could help the community....again, that is just a simple example....like you said your mom used to live in a squatter area, the govt can help you with that and for me no human being deserve to live in a substandard and unsafe environment....thats why we pay taxes for....here in US they have student loans and grants and really encourage its citizens to go to school, a govt program like that will be a good idea especially for the poor so they can get a better opportunity.... 

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only1country:

Poverty is worldwide issue.  Philippines for one is suffering from this.  But I find it ironic these people are blaming it all to governemnt.  The government may be one of the reasons but they are to be as to blame for their lives.  It has something to do with an individual's mentality. To stop pointing fingers on who's to blame with their miserable life,  My mom came here in Cebu with nothing and knows no one.  From the port she directly went to the market and ask people with a store if they need a worker.  She found a job selling meat before she could find a room to live which is also near the market.  My mom's hardwork paid off slowly.  I was born and we lived in squatters area but my mom knows how to save. i was 8 or 9 she was able to buy a lot and build a house in subdivision. she does this by herself. Now she has  a stall in the market and have a good business and enjoying a good life.  A person is answerable to his own life not the government.  Nothing will happen to one's life if you just sit and do nothing. You have to work hard in order to have the life you want since not all of us are blessed to be born with money. 

                 YOU CANNOT COMPARE THE PHILIPPINES  TO ANOTHER COUNTRY,  THE PROBLEM WITH OUR COUNTRY IS WHOEVER LEAD THE

COUNTRY.....CORRUPTIONS IS PART OF THEIR LEGACY.

                 INSTEAD OF USING THE FEW RESOURCES OF THE COUNTRY TO UPLIFT THE LIVING CONDITIONS FO THE PEOPLE, MANY OF OUR

POLITICIANS ARE MORE CONCERN ON HOW TO ENRICH THEMSLEVES AT THE EXPENSE OF THE FILIPINOS.

                

Its human and cultural nature that's why peeps blame the govt and others for their poverty issue, its never their own fault.

 I blame my parents cuz they made me so damn gorgeous and handsome that ladies and gays chase me whereever I go.

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Juaneeta-Charot:

Its human and cultural nature that's why peeps blame the govt and others for their poverty issue, its never their own fault.

 I blame my parents cuz they made me so damn gorgeous and handsome that ladies and gays chase me whereever I go.[:'(]

i beg to disagree the never their own fault statement....

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Juaneeta-Charot:

Its human and cultural nature that's why peeps blame the govt and others for their poverty issue, its never their own fault.

 I blame my parents cuz they made me so damn gorgeous and handsome that ladies and gays chase me whereever I go.

Yeah, right! In your dreams, buddy.

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palahubug99:

Juaneeta-Charot:

Its human and cultural nature that's why peeps blame the govt and others for their poverty issue, its never their own fault.

 I blame my parents cuz they made me so damn gorgeous and handsome that ladies and gays chase me whereever I go.

Yeah, right! In your dreams, buddy.

   Juaneeta-Charot,   NOT ONLY THAT ........THEY USED PGMA AS THEIR  "TOOL"  JUST TO AVOID THE TRUTH, IT'S ABOUT ME ? ME..ME..ME

                        IT'S ALL ABOUT THEM .   BLAME THEIR  "MISERY" IN LIFE TO OTHER PEOPLE ( NEGATIVE THINKING)

                        GET OVER IT !

^As usual Jayjay101 you make sense only to yourself. Do you practice this every morning when you get up? You appear to be the master of obfuscation. Lay off the booze for a change so you won't be hung over so much.

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Congratulations to your Mom, she is a perfect example of what our country needs from the grassroots. You are correct to say that we should not put ALL the blame at the government, but let me add that the government shares the majority of the blame because it is their duty to create an environment that gives opportunities for its citizens to go ahead and progress to a better life. they should provide "The Cow" and it us up for us to obtain the milk and from there make cheese, butter, cream, etc...How can you get these products if there is no cow to provide the milk? Get it? 

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Lazzaluv:

You are correct to say that we should not put ALL the blame at the government, but let me add that the government shares the majority of the blame because it is their duty to create an environment that gives opportunities for its citizens to go ahead and progress to a better life. they should provide "The Cow" and it us up for us to obtain the milk and from there make cheese, butter, cream, etc...How can you get these products if there is no cow to provide the milk? Get it? 

This is a rather myopic way of looking at poverty and the role of government.

Rather than blame the government for all or even part of the travails in life each and every Filipino encounters, Filipinos should start using their in-born talents and creativeness to survive or better still excel in life. Let the politicians do what their good at.. just blowing hot air... and, lets get down to brass tacks and improve our own lives.

Tama na ang dada!.. Gawa!

In the more than 4 decades I have been alive, I have yet to encounter a single Filipino who is "contented" with what government has done for him/her. There is always a "wise guy" out there who will tell us..and lead us to believe that we could have better lives. 

And, who are they kidding? The poor, the desitute and un-educated...who are always cajoled into voting for the "messiah."

These "messiah" come to the masses, thinking of the poor, working for the poor...but, once elected... are surrounded with a cordon sanitaire, a motley of goons,  and are privileged enough not to suffer the normal plight of heat and traffic that mere mortals like us have to endure. 

 

 

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victorgil:

Lazzaluv:

You are correct to say that we should not put ALL the blame at the government, but let me add that the government shares the majority of the blame because it is their duty to create an environment that gives opportunities for its citizens to go ahead and progress to a better life. they should provide "The Cow" and it us up for us to obtain the milk and from there make cheese, butter, cream, etc...How can you get these products if there is no cow to provide the milk? Get it? 

This is a rather myopic way of looking at poverty and the role of government.

Rather than blame the government for all or even part of the travails in life each and every Filipino encounters, Filipinos should start using their in-born talents and creativeness to survive or better still excel in life. Let the politicians do what their good at.. just blowing hot air... and, lets get down to brass tacks and improve our own lives.

Tama na ang dada!.. Gawa!

In the more than 4 decades I have been alive, I have yet to encounter a single Filipino who is "contented" with what government has done for him/her. There is always a "wise guy" out there who will tell us..and lead us to believe that we could have better lives. 

And, who are they kidding? The poor, the desitute and un-educated...who are always cajoled into voting for the "messiah."

These "messiah" come to the masses, thinking of the poor, working for the poor...but, once elected... are surrounded with a cordon sanitaire, a motley of goons,  and are privileged enough not to suffer the normal plight of heat and traffic that mere mortals like us have to endure. 

"Myopic" you say? What is the role of the citizenry and corporations who do business within the republic? To pay taxes to the government, correct? What is the role of the national government? Is it not to collect those taxes and ACCOUNT PUBLICLY for the taxes collected? Why do we pay taxes as citizens? Is it not so the government can use it wisely to provide services for us the people? This includes national defense, public schools, roads, bridges, public infrastructure, libraries, stimulation of the economy to provide jobs when required. Therefore, something is wrong when you as a citizen go the government to seek help in finding a job only to be told that you should become an OFW. This is the Philippine jobs program? in Dubai? in HK? in London? in the USA? In short, anywhere but here? WTF are we paying taxes for then? Is it so GMA can stuff the pockets of batasan legislators or LGUs so she can dodge the next impeachment complaint?

 

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Sorry Victorgil if you found it "Myopic". I wanted to keep it as simple as I can but it seems you still did'nt get the message.

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Lazzaluv:

Sorry Victorgil if you found it "Myopic". I wanted to keep it as simple as I can but it seems you still did'nt get the message.

the problem really is corruption....the funding for the poor mostly goes to these corrupt gov't people....so every pinoy paying taxes have the right to be pissed off to the gov't....

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Everyone seems to be ganging up on the government, big business, politicians and all those that form part of the society... yet, they fail to see that they have a responsibility to society themselves other than just paying taxes and bad-mouthing what ever is seen to be improper.

I agree that corruption is indeed a reason for poverty.. but, it is not the only reason, gentlemen. Pinoys have a pentchant for complaining for getting poor service.. whether it is in buying stuff from a sari-sari store to the multi-million/billion infrastructure projects.

Yet, pinoys are "paper tigers"... all brouhaha no action.

What i suggest is that we quit blaming other people for our ineptitude..and get to working for our own, family and children's sake. If we keep on harping... nothing will happen.

By the way, I did come across a note on our history way back in my UP days.. corruption, you see, is not inherent in the Filipino culture. It was imported from Spain and honed to perfection by the Americans.

So, before we start blaming the Filipino and the government it has, blame ourselves for absorbing and incalcating these foreign influences.

And, one thing more, the noisiest of the Filipinos are those who don't live within the country.. but, who live in other countries or were educated by foreign schools and stayed abroad.

Who are they to complain about the motherland.. when they themselves do not feel the plight of their own people? They are just as guilty as Jose Ma. Sison and the other Communists who are in the Netherlands... fighting a war from the comforts of an armchair.

May nagawa ka ba para sa bayan mo maliban sa pagdadala ng mga balikbayan box? 

Di mo ba alam kung ilang pilipino ang nawawalan ng trabaho sa pabrika kapag nagpapadala ka o bumibili ka ng gamit na gawa ng ibang bansa?

Nasaan po ba ang inyong filipino spirit?

Whatever you may say about the government, big business or filipino society as a whole, it still is better off than some other third world country or a first world country... we may not have our Fords, Volvos, Lexuses.. but, at least, no children have ever been shot by other children with automatic rifles in school.

Proud po ako maging Pinoy na nakatira sa Pilipinas!  Kinahihiya niyo ba na kayo'y pinoy?

 

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victorgil:

Everyone seems to be ganging up on the government, big business, politicians and all those that form part of the society... yet, they fail to see that they have a responsibility to society themselves other than just paying taxes and bad-mouthing what ever is seen to be improper.

I agree that corruption is indeed a reason for poverty.. but, it is not the only reason, gentlemen. Pinoys have a pentchant for complaining for getting poor service.. whether it is in buying stuff from a sari-sari store to the multi-million/billion infrastructure projects.

Yet, pinoys are "paper tigers"... all brouhaha no action.

What i suggest is that we quit blaming other people for our ineptitude..and get to working for our own, family and children's sake. If we keep on harping... nothing will happen.

By the way, I did come across a note on our history way back in my UP days.. corruption, you see, is not inherent in the Filipino culture. It was imported from Spain and honed to perfection by the Americans.

So, before we start blaming the Filipino and the government it has, blame ourselves for absorbing and incalcating these foreign influences.

And, one thing more, the noisiest of the Filipinos are those who don't live within the country.. but, who live in other countries or were educated by foreign schools and stayed abroad.

Who are they to complain about the motherland.. when they themselves do not feel the plight of their own people? They are just as guilty as Jose Ma. Sison and the other Communists who are in the Netherlands... fighting a war from the comforts of an armchair.

May nagawa ka ba para sa bayan mo maliban sa pagdadala ng mga balikbayan box? 

Di mo ba alam kung ilang pilipino ang nawawalan ng trabaho sa pabrika kapag nagpapadala ka o bumibili ka ng gamit na gawa ng ibang bansa?

Nasaan po ba ang inyong filipino spirit?

Whatever you may say about the government, big business or filipino society as a whole, it still is better off than some other third world country or a first world country... we may not have our Fords, Volvos, Lexuses.. but, at least, no children have ever been shot by other children with automatic rifles in school.

Proud po ako maging Pinoy na nakatira sa Pilipinas!  Kinahihiya niyo ba na kayo'y pinoy?

Gawad Kalinga is the brainchild of overseas Pinoys, thank you very much. I am proud to say I contribute to this charity.

Yan nga ang problema, bosing. It's called the "every man for himself" mentality. We do our darndest best for our own but what about our neighbors, friends, fellow Filipinos in the national sense? Do we care about them? No sense of nationalism and patriotism. I have yet to see a country move forward without a shared sense of national identity. Other than a Manny Pacquiao fight, to be called a "Filipino" is considered smarmy or campy. We relate more to fellow-Kapampangans, fellow-Ilocanos, fellow-Cebuanos, shared lingua franca, clan, blood. This is what differentiates us from Japanese, Koreans, Taiwanese, even Vietnamese - more progressive Asian countries - the lack of a nation-state.

You want a history lesson? Read my little essay entitled "A Nation of Serfs" about our unique history as a nation:

http://www.marathonhcs.com/1/156/misc1.asp

UP ka pala? So was I back in the day. I picked up my masters here in the USA though.

Not all homeland Pinoys are clueless. Trouble is, the ones who complain loudest there are extra-judicially killed by 50 cc vigilantes and military death squads.

http://www.upiasiaonline.com/Politics/2007/12/26/philippines_in_need_of_ethical_leadership/3604/

 

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"Gawad Kalinga is the brainchild of overseas Pinoys, thank you very much. I am proud to say I contribute to this charity."

Rather than be-labour this issue any further. It's a good thing that there is a project called Gawad Kalinga... and, it's good that you contribute to this charity. May people of your type thrive and prosper.

However, it appears that you may have missed the point of the discussion.. projects like Gawad Kalinga is a classic example of what Filipinos do on a national sense.. and, it is done bereft of support from the government. This is what I have been talking about all along. Projects done by private citizens for the common good...no photo ops, no press releases, just plain blood, sweat and at times tears.

We need more like these; and, hopefully, the poor and destitute would forego their harping, whining and crying for "social justice" and what have yous."

"Not all homeland Pinoys are clueless. Trouble is, the ones who complain loudest there are extra-judicially killed by 50 cc vigilantes and military death squads."

The ones who complain the loudest are actually funded by foreign organisations.. left leaning, socialist, fanatical clericism and the like. Don't tell me that these guys do it for sheer service sake, by good ness, such naivete! 

They are just noisy... no clear cut plans of action to get the country out of the perceived rut.

Have they contributed at all in the legislature?

Have they been instrumental in the creation of laws that pursue social justice?

Or, are they just like the others, too... getting money to fund their own petty projects without national importance.

Have you ever wondered where the funds come to finance the mass production of placards and flyers? If, they indeed are speaking for the poor, the destitute, or the victims of injustice... people sans the financial means to mount such...where are they getting the funding?

I'm not for vigilantes or military death squads.. thats so South American.. but, we should not allow people to take advantage of the democratic space to pursue "nationalist ideals" hiding "personal/selfish motives."

 

 

 

 

 

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victorgil:

The ones who complain the loudest are actually funded by foreign organisations.. left leaning, socialist, fanatical clericism and the like. Don't tell me that these guys do it for sheer service sake, by good ness, such naivete! 

Tell me please where is your evidence to back up such outrageous claims? Magsasaka complaining about impossibility of true agrarian reform in a landowner-dominated senate and batasan - a country where 6,000-hectare tracts of land like Hacienda Luisita and Hacienda Tinang are the norm - should be branded as "communist"? Have you even asked yourself how the ruling elites in our country got to be so wealthy? Who's being naive now?

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palahubug99:

victorgil:

The ones who complain the loudest are actually funded by foreign organisations.. left leaning, socialist, fanatical clericism and the like. Don't tell me that these guys do it for sheer service sake, by good ness, such naivete! 

Tell me please where is your evidence to back up such outrageous claims? Magsasaka complaining about impossibility of true agrarian reform in a landowner-dominated senate and batasan - a country where 10,000 hectare tracts of land like Hacienda Luisita and Hacienda Tinang are common - are to be branded as "communist"? Have you even asked yourself how the ruling elites in our country got to be so wealthy? Who's being naive now?

maybe this guy is right, the poor have no voice in the Phil....

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Here's an excerpt from "Goodfellas with Tagalog Subtitles":

"...His cousins in the other branch of the Cojuangco family are the owners of the famous Hacienda Luisita - where some workers earn the fabulous salary of P90 (a little more than $1.50) a day: the law says the minimum wage is P200 a day. Their answer to land reform was to make a mockery of the law at a time when the House Speaker was none other than a family member, Jose "Peping" Cojuangco Jr. Close to Hacienda Luisita is the sprawling Hacienda Tinang, a sugar estate once owned by the Aquino clan, sold to the De Leon family, and then partitioned among dozens of members of mostly the De Leon family (who else?), plus a few investment bankers, socialites, businessmen and friends and relatives of politicians, all belonging to wealthy families, as the Philippine Center for Investigative Journalism has shown. This privileged bunch paid an average P450,000 (little more than $8,000 by the current exchange rate) for the estate, an absolute bargain for plots of land that should have been awarded to people who were really entitled to them: landless tenants, farm workers or tillers. This is a graphic example of how "land reform" in the Philippines really works.

The Philippines does have a Comprehensive Agrarian Reform Program (CARP), established under former president Cory Aquino (she's also a Cojuangco by birth). The government of current President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo claims that 5.8 million hectares have been distributed to 2.7 million beneficiaries, or 72% of the forecast total. For starters, no one seriously believes in this 72% - and people are very much aware of Hacienda Tinang-style schemes. Moreover, the program should have been completed in 1999. And accusations of shady deals have been flying non-stop for 15 years. Arroyo, in the inaugural speech for her six-year term starting in 2004, didn't utter a single word about land reform or rural poverty. The Philippines Center for Investigative Journalism stresses that "ideally, CARP would correct centuries-old injustices by giving land to the landless. In the Hacienda Luisita case, however, land remained in the hands of the landowner: in this case, in the hands of the president's family" - a reference to the Aquino-Cojuangco clans."

Here's the link to the entire article:

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/FJ02Ae01.html

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victorgil:

We need more like these; and, hopefully, the poor and destitute would forego their harping, whining and crying for "social justice" and what have yous."

Careful, Vic. Your arrogance is showing.

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