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  •  06-16-2006, 12:40 AM 1540934

    Save La Mesa watershed

    What do you think of the La Mesa watershed issue? Should the MWSS employees be allowed to build their houses within La Mesa? When this happens, it is likely that human waste will contaminate the reservoir and potable water for the 13 million residents of Metro Manila and 8 million inhabitants of Cavite and parts of Rizal province.

    Post your comments here. cool.gif


    Below is the article for your full understanding: smile.gif

    MWSS chief says La Mesa at risk

    Administrator Orlando Hondrade of the Metropolitan Waterworks and Sewerage System (MWSS) admitted on Tuesday the existence of a housing complex for the water agency’s top executives within the La Mesa watershed at a Senate committee hearing.
    Sen. Pia Cayetano, chairman of the Senate Committee on Environment and Natural Resources, had called an investigation to determine the veracity of reports that MWSS executives had built their own houses in the watershed, which environmentalists fear could contaminate the 700-hectare reservoir, the source of potable water for the 12 million Metro Manila residents.
    To a question posed by the senator, Hondrade replied most MWSS top executives and their families had already moved to the houses in the three-hectare executive village. He also said he owned one of the 54 houses but hastened to add that it had a floor area of only 60 square meters.
    "It was originally a 30-square-meter house, but I extended it to have a receiving room, just one room," he said.
    The existence of the MWSS executive village came to light when Marianito Canonigo of Sinag, a nongovernment organization, one of the founding members of Save La Mesa Dam coalition, broke the news.
    The Save La Mesa Dam Coalition had opposed the proposed 58-hectare housing project for the 1,411 MWSS rank-and-file employees.
    In the Senate hearing Hondrade owned up to the possibility of human waste leaching into the reservoir from the houses if their construction is allowed to proceed. He assured the committee, however, that measures are in place to ensure that household waste, including sewage, does not drain untreated into the reservoir.
    The measures, according to Honrade, include the construction of the P46 million waste-treatment plant, where household water is treated before it is allowed to empty into the reservoir.
    Asked by Cayetano if the MWSS employees and retirees have that kind of money, Honrade replied that the water agency has stipulated the inclusion of the treatment plant in the contract awarded to the company that would build the houses.
    Contamination a distinct possibility
    He was forced to acknowledge the danger after Virgilio Basa, an expert from the National Mapping and Resources Authority of the Department of Environment and Natural Resources, informed the committee that contamination was a distinct possibility. Both the proposed and existing housing projects, he noted, are located above the man-made lake.
    Jaime Jose Fernandez, project director of Bantay Kalikasan, questioned the effectiveness of a waste-treatment plant. No conceivable measure, he said, can be adopted to prevent contamination. In support of this view, he cited the study made by the National Hydraulic Research Center of the University of the Philippines’ College of Engineering.
    "It (La Mesa Dam watershed) is the only remaining forest of its size in Metro Manila," Fernandez said. "We hope the government would declare it a protected area."
    A tract of land or body of water classified as protected is off limits to man-made structures, including residential houses.
    The 700-hectare lake, replenished all year round from Angat Dam in Bulacan, is the source of potable water for the 13 million residents of Metro Manila and 8 million inhabitants of Cavite and parts of Rizal province.
    Relocation the best solution
    To a suggestion from Cayetano, Genaro Bautista, president of the Kaisahan at Kapatiran ng mga Manggagawa at Kawani ng Nawasa, said he would ask the MWSS employees and retirees if they would consent to relocate their housing site outside the watershed.
    Cayetano said relocation seemed to be the best solution to the problem. She noted there have been assurances that contamination could be prevented, but there is no point risking it.
    For his part, Canonigo said the government should remove the houses in the MWSS executive village. He said the site is within a one-kilometer radius from the reservoir. The proposed housing for ordinary employees is three kilometers away.
    "Fairness requires the removal of the houses if we don’t allow the development of a housing project for ordinary employees in the same watershed," Canonigo said.
    La Mesa covers 2,700 hectares, of which 2,000 are classified as forestland
  •  06-16-2006, 2:48 AM 1540935 in reply to 1540934

    Re: Save La Mesa watershed

    Can we bring this fight for La Mesa Dam to the UN?
    Earn money.

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  •  06-16-2006, 2:51 AM 1540936 in reply to 1540934

    Re: Save La Mesa watershed

    QUOTE(globalsamaritan @ Jun 15 2006, 11:48 AM) [snapback]1979859[/snapback]

    Can we bring this fight for La Mesa Dam to the UN?


    Let's bring it!!!!!!

    DREW
  •  06-16-2006, 4:16 AM 1540937 in reply to 1540934

    Re: Save La Mesa watershed

    [quote name='Munchy' date='Jun 16 2006, 12:40 AM' post='1979648']
    What do you think of the La Mesa watershed issue? Should the MWSS employees be allowed to build their houses within La Mesa? When this happens, it is likely that human waste will contaminate the reservoir and ######ble water for the 13 million residents of Metro Manila and 8 million inhabitants of Cavite and parts of Rizal province.

    Post your comments here. cool.gif
    Below is the article for your full understanding: smile.gif

    MWSS chief says La Mesa at risk

    Hi munchy i am glad that you have open a thread for this. because i am not only interested of the LA MESA DAM but also the entire shores of the Philippines. i agree there should not be any housing close to the DAM, because no matter what precaution will be in place these families will multiply in years to come therefore HUMAN WASTE will be in gigantic amount. and whatever precaution the authority will impose to the surrounding DAM there is still the posibility of human error. did you know what happen if error in future could occure, the future generation of the entire Manila and suburbs are in danger of unhealthy water supply. by all means this DAM should be protected, after all WATER IS LIFE.

    munchy, your MEDIA connection will be of great service to spread EDUCATIONAL AWARENESS to ALL Philippines local governments in regards of educating their local constituencies of maintaining their LOCAL BEACHES CLEAN.

    you are probably unaware that most shores in our country are filthy this is because the locals that lives in those AREAS are not taught the cleanliness of their surroundings. i have heard that the place where i grew up are so filthy ( i said "are") because i grew up in both beaches. i am told that no one could even go and swim in those beaches anymore because even baboy excretion goes to the sea.

    your MEDIA could help spread awareness for the whole Philippine local governments. so they can become vigilant of their surrounding area. though we do not need the militancy approach though. gentle awareness and education is the key.

    by the way have you seen also the PASIG RIVER. i saw from picture how dirty it is. you know that is really unecessary to be that filthy if people of that surrounding are made AWARE of their duty for cleanliness. The PASIG local government could organize clean up once a month. the locals should should be ask to spare one day a month of their time for cleaning up.
  •  06-16-2006, 7:58 AM 1540938 in reply to 1540934

    Re: Save La Mesa watershed

    QUOTE(globalsamaritan @ Jun 16 2006, 02:48 AM) [snapback]1979859[/snapback]

    Can we bring this fight for La Mesa Dam to the UN?

    What? Not necessary. What is wrong with your district elected defender of the people (councilor, congressman)? Run a petition, get the people's signature. That should put a hold on that. Find out who are actively behind it. Rally in front of MWSS. smile.gif
    The one who kicked Jonas from behind in two forums
  •  06-17-2006, 11:23 AM 1540939 in reply to 1540934

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    Technically, the issue of contamination is overblown. The 13 million residents in Manila don't drink the water straight out of the river water. The La Mesa water gets treated before it is piped to consumers. Even without the housing project, some nearby residents or visitors from time to time have and will do their #### on the river bank, hence fecal matter has already made its way into the La Mesa water (yakks!), and will continue.

    However, I agree that no one should be allowed to build houses within the watershed area. Not for the risk of contamination but because a watershed is supposed to be kept intact in order to protect its natural vegetation. My question is, how large is the housing project by the way? Does the developer have to cut down trees or clear away vegetation? If yes, then it is a definite NO to the housing project!

    "the conspirators shall weave their intricate deceptions, but their bad breath shall give them away"
  •  06-23-2006, 5:20 AM 1540940 in reply to 1540934

    Re: Save La Mesa watershed

    QUOTE(concerned_pinoy @ Jun 16 2006, 08:23 PM) [snapback]1984365[/snapback]

    Technically, the issue of contamination is overblown. The 13 million residents in Manila don't drink the water straight out of the river water. The La Mesa water gets treated before it is piped to consumers. Even without the housing project, some nearby residents or visitors from time to time have and will do their #### on the river bank, hence fecal matter has already made its way into the La Mesa water (yakks!), and will continue.

    However, I agree that no one should be allowed to build houses within the watershed area. Not for the risk of contamination but because a watershed is supposed to be kept intact in order to protect its natural vegetation. My question is, how large is the housing project by the way? Does the developer have to cut down trees or clear away vegetation? If yes, then it is a definite NO to the housing project!

    I totally agree with you. The problem that people would have will be in the future, you know how it is in
    our country once you let one housing built, then there would be another then another and in the end you'll
    see that the whole area filled with houses. They should place a zoning area or forest reservation to keep
    the water shed intact, and that it will be protected from any hostile infrastructure that will definitely destroy
    the trees and vegetation of the claim area.
  •  06-23-2006, 6:02 AM 1540941 in reply to 1540934

    Re: Save La Mesa watershed

    QUOTE(Munchy @ Jun 16 2006, 12:40 AM) [snapback]1979648[/snapback]

    What do you think of the La Mesa watershed issue? Should the MWSS employees be allowed to build their houses within La Mesa? When this happens, it is likely that human waste will contaminate the reservoir and ######ble water for the 13 million residents of Metro Manila and 8 million inhabitants of Cavite and parts of Rizal province.

    Post your comments here. cool.gif
    Below is the article for your full understanding: smile.gif

    MWSS chief says La Mesa at risk

    Administrator Orlando Hondrade of the Metropolitan Waterworks and Sewerage System (MWSS) admitted on Tuesday the existence of a housing complex for the water agency’s top executives within the La Mesa watershed at a Senate committee hearing.
    Sen. Pia Cayetano, chairman of the Senate Committee on Environment and Natural Resources, had called an investigation to determine the veracity of reports that MWSS executives had built their own houses in the watershed, which environmentalists fear could contaminate the 700-hectare reservoir, the source of ######ble water for the 12 million Metro Manila residents.
    To a question posed by the senator, Hondrade replied most MWSS top executives and their families had already moved to the houses in the three-hectare executive village. He also said he owned one of the 54 houses but hastened to add that it had a floor area of only 60 square meters.
    "It was originally a 30-square-meter house, but I extended it to have a receiving room, just one room," he said.
    The existence of the MWSS executive village came to light when Marianito Canonigo of Sinag, a nongovernment organization, one of the founding members of Save La Mesa Dam coalition, broke the news.
    The Save La Mesa Dam Coalition had opposed the proposed 58-hectare housing project for the 1,411 MWSS rank-and-file employees.
    In the Senate hearing Hondrade owned up to the possibility of human waste leaching into the reservoir from the houses if their construction is allowed to proceed. He assured the committee, however, that measures are in place to ensure that household waste, including sewage, does not drain untreated into the reservoir.
    The measures, according to Honrade, include the construction of the P46 million waste-treatment plant, where household water is treated before it is allowed to empty into the reservoir.
    Asked by Cayetano if the MWSS employees and retirees have that kind of money, Honrade replied that the water agency has stipulated the inclusion of the treatment plant in the contract awarded to the company that would build the houses.
    Contamination a distinct possibility
    He was forced to acknowledge the danger after Virgilio Basa, an expert from the National Mapping and Resources Authority of the Department of Environment and Natural Resources, informed the committee that contamination was a distinct possibility. Both the proposed and existing housing projects, he noted, are located above the man-made lake.
    Jaime Jose Fernandez, project director of Bantay Kalikasan, questioned the effectiveness of a waste-treatment plant. No conceivable measure, he said, can be adopted to prevent contamination. In support of this view, he cited the study made by the National Hydraulic Research Center of the University of the Philippines’ College of Engineering.
    "It (La Mesa Dam watershed) is the only remaining forest of its size in Metro Manila," Fernandez said. "We hope the government would declare it a protected area."
    A tract of land or body of water classified as protected is off limits to man-made structures, including residential houses.
    The 700-hectare lake, replenished all year round from Angat Dam in Bulacan, is the source of ######ble water for the 13 million residents of Metro Manila and 8 million inhabitants of Cavite and parts of Rizal province.
    Relocation the best solution
    To a suggestion from Cayetano, Genaro Bautista, president of the Kaisahan at Kapatiran ng mga Manggagawa at Kawani ng Nawasa, said he would ask the MWSS employees and retirees if they would consent to relocate their housing site outside the watershed.
    Cayetano said relocation seemed to be the best solution to the problem. She noted there have been assurances that contamination could be prevented, but there is no point risking it.
    For his part, Canonigo said the government should remove the houses in the MWSS executive village. He said the site is within a one-kilometer radius from the reservoir. The proposed housing for ordinary employees is three kilometers away.
    "Fairness requires the removal of the houses if we don’t allow the development of a housing project for ordinary employees in the same watershed," Canonigo said.
    La Mesa covers 2,700 hectares, of which 2,000 are classified as forestland


    hi munchy according to the news the residents nearby the LA MESA DAM are moving out. i'm glad they come to their senses. although i symphatize of their plight but one must also look ahead in the future. imagine in 100 years time these families will expand and it will be diffucult to protect the entire LA MESA DAM from human errors. as i said "water is life" and must be taking care of for cleanliness.
  •  06-23-2006, 9:03 PM 1540942 in reply to 1540934

    Re: Save La Mesa watershed

    visit kayo ng ECO park smile.gif
    HUS BACK!?
  •  06-24-2006, 3:02 PM 1540943 in reply to 1540934

    Re: Save La Mesa watershed

    The Senate is conducting a hearing on this. Saw Gina Lopez's presentation and also heard the other side. Don't know what happened to that hearing though.
  •  06-25-2006, 10:33 AM 1540944 in reply to 1540934

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    QUOTE(dovcps @ Jun 23 2006, 06:02 AM) [snapback]2000156[/snapback]

    hi munchy according to the news the residents nearby the LA MESA DAM are moving out. i'm glad they come to their senses. although i symphatize of their plight but one must also look ahead in the future. imagine in 100 years time these families will expand and it will be diffucult to protect the entire LA MESA DAM from human errors. as i said "water is life" and must be taking care of for cleanliness.



    I agree. The earlier this problem is solved the less mess it will create down the road. I'm just
    curious though, how are these land awarded to the employees? Is it by rank, tenure of office? length
    of service? Are they paying for the land? Are they being awarded land titles for these properties?
  •  06-29-2006, 2:10 PM 1540945 in reply to 1540934

    Re: Save La Mesa watershed

    QUOTE(one of the silent majority @ Jun 25 2006, 10:33 AM) [snapback]2007523[/snapback]

    I agree. The earlier this problem is solved the less mess it will create down the road. I'm just
    curious though, how are these land awarded to the employees? Is it by rank, tenure of office? length
    of service? Are they paying for the land? Are they being awarded land titles for these properties?


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  •  07-13-2006, 6:23 PM 1540946 in reply to 1540934

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    i am posting this because i wanted it to compare what would happen to the La Mesa watershed if people are allowed to live nearby. i have read about what had happen six years ago in Payatas. people out there were allowed to live around garbage dump. of which it should not have been permitted at all. so that is the same with the La Mesa watershed. it must be strictly forbidden to everyone to do any other business around the watershed other than for water preservation. it must be protected.[font=Arial Black]
  •  07-14-2006, 2:39 PM 1540947 in reply to 1540934

    Re: Save La Mesa watershed

    QUOTE(dovcps @ Jul 13 2006, 06:23 PM) [snapback]2075680[/snapback]

    i am posting this because i wanted it to compare what would happen to the La Mesa watershed if people are allowed to live nearby. i have read about what had happen six years ago in Payatas. people out there were allowed to live around garbage dump. of which it should not have been permitted at all. so that is the same with the La Mesa watershed. it must be strictly forbidden to everyone to do any other business around the watershed other than for water preservation. it must be protected.[font=Arial Black]

    What words can do if you're in abroad?
    Nothing happens to any man that he is not formed by nature to bear.

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    Everyone is necessarily the hero of his own life story.

  •  07-14-2006, 7:19 PM 1540948 in reply to 1540934

    Re: Save La Mesa watershed

    QUOTE(youdiehard @ Jul 14 2006, 02:39 PM) [snapback]2078518[/snapback]

    What words can do if you're in abroad?


    what words can do? "WORDS OF INFORMATIONS TRANSFORM TO A WEALTH OF "KNOWLEDGE"

    by the way, can you offer more knowledgeable words about the La Mesa watershed.
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  •  07-27-2006, 12:26 PM 1540949 in reply to 1540934

    Re: Save La Mesa watershed

    If people move on to land downstream of a dam, do they have to know how to swim? I hope so!
  •  07-27-2006, 12:56 PM 1540950 in reply to 1540934

    Re: Save La Mesa watershed

    QUOTE(youdiehard @ Jul 14 2006, 02:39 PM) [snapback]2078518[/snapback]

    What words can do if you're in abroad?


    If you stop taking drugs and start paying attention to facts, it is us, Filipinos who are abroad, who are keeping the Philippine economy running. Without the billions of dollars Filipinos overseas are sending to 'Pinas, that place would probably be like Ethiopia by now and you would have a swarm of flies feasting on your head while you are spreadout (nakahandusay) in filth on some street comatose with hunger.

    What about you, what have you done? Except advertise Mcdonalds for free (which by the way is a violation of forum rules).
    I am a dumb male nurse with bad breath.
  •  09-08-2006, 10:21 AM 1540951 in reply to 1540934

    Re: Save La Mesa watershed

    QUOTE(sacrebleau @ Jul 27 2006, 12:56 PM) [snapback]2100899[/snapback]

    If you stop taking drugs and start paying attention to facts, it is us, Filipinos who are abroad, who are keeping the Philippine economy running. Without the billions of dollars Filipinos overseas are sending to 'Pinas, that place would probably be like Ethiopia by now and you would have a swarm of flies feasting on your head while you are spreadout (nakahandusay) in filth on some street comatose with hunger.

    What about you, what have you done? Except advertise Mcdonalds for free (which by the way is a violation of forum rules).

    dúmbªss! If you're really that good you don't have to go abroad to keep Philippine economy running.

    Don't worry tumutulong na ang jollibee sa kalikasan. Tamo 1 piraso lang ng tissue ibibigay sa iyo laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
    Nothing happens to any man that he is not formed by nature to bear.

    http://youdiehard.blogspot.com

    Everyone is necessarily the hero of his own life story.

  •  10-01-2006, 5:35 PM 1540952 in reply to 1540934

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnUoLgqU3uM

    Watch these commercials. 'Nuff said. laugh.gif
  •  10-21-2006, 9:23 PM 1540953 in reply to 1540934

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    make your voices be heard!

    mga pare, this is a serious matter!
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